running into 4 gb limit on ntfs partition

[rwagner]

I am transfering tapes to dvd. I'm using Ulead's Movie Factory to capture to mpeg2. Movie factory and the mpeg2 file it creates are on a 60 gb ntfs partition. WinXP is installed on a fat32 partiton. When the file size hits 4 gb, movie factory starts a second file and keeps right on capturing to it. Does movie factory have a file size limit? If not, why can't I capture to a file larger than 4gb?

I'm brand new to this, so I would appreciate any suggestions. Thanks.

[Mirror_Image]

Your captures might be using a temp file on the fat32 drive.

[mdm]

I'm not sure about Movie Factory (I will check in a minute), but Media Studio Pro's capture program (certainly similar or the bases of what's in MF) has an option to automatically create new files at a specified size. You might want to look for that option and disable it.

[rwagner]

Thanks for the speedy replys. The only option I see is "split by scene" which is not checked. I also didn't see any temp file on the fat32 partition during capture. I did a search of the registry and found seamless capture in two places under ulead movie factory preferences. It was turned on in one location and off in the other. It seems to me it should be the same in both registry locations. Do you think this would affect my problem? I'm not quite clear on what exactly seamless capture is.

[rwagner]

Just downloaded the manual for movie factory. When all else fails, rtfm. It appears that seamless capture does involve the 4 gb limit, but they make it sound like it only applies to DV camcorders. Or maybe I'm reading it wrong. I guess I'll play around it.


Capture
The first step allows you to capture from any video capture device to the hard disk. The Video ToolBox comes with the scene detection function for DV camcorders that allows you to automatically split different scenes in your video into separate video clip files. It also allows you to get around the 4 GB file limitation for FAT32 file systems with its seamless DV capture function.

[mdm]

It may apply only to DV Seamless Capture is the option I was talking about, and it is located (in MSP6.5) in the same place as the Scene Detection option. When I tried capturing from my TV tuner these options were grayed out

[ahfairley]

It sounds to me like the "seamless capture" feature refers to splitting the files, so you can capture stuff larger and 4GB. I have VV3 on a FAT32 system, and when I capture it splits into 4GB files. When I pull the files into the editor, and encode, you can't tell where one ends and the other begins -- seamless. If you are editing before encoding, or you can stack the files up for linked encoding with your encoder, it may not be a real problem (just a nuisance)

[Lula1]

Hi ahfairley,

Can TMPGEnc stack the files in order to produce a continuous MPEG file from 2 or mopre captured AVI files with the file size limit of 4GB ?

[SHS]

ahfairley the main boot partition must be NTFS or you alway have 4GB limitation.
As for temp that has nothing to do with it by default when Windows2000/XP is install on FAT32 boot partition it turn on 4GB limitation even knowing you have one NTFS partition.

Converts FAT and FAT32 volumes to NTFS.
You cannot convert the current drive. If convert cannot lock the drive it will offer to convert it the next time the computer restarts.

convert [drive:] /fs:ntfs [/v]

Parameters

drive:

Specifies the drive to convert to NTFS.

/fs:ntfs

Specifies that the volume be converted to NTFS.

/v

Specifies verbose mode. All messages will be displayed during conversion.

[mbellot]

SHS:

The main boot drive does NOT have to be NTFS to "overcome" the 4GB file size limitation. I have three drives C: (boot, FAT32), F: (transient storage, FAT32) and I: (Video only storage/processing, NTFS) and regularly create files > 4 GB when doing encodes for DVD.

System is Win2K (no stinkin' SPs).

I would *never* have a boot drive that wasn't "floppy accessable" in case of emergency (like a cr@ppy program hosing up the system). The command prompt is still the most powerful place to be with Microsoft.

Mark

[SHS]

Have you ever heard of Safe Mode and there is one for Command Prompt only How ever I have 2 copy of Win2000 install Main Boot and a Backup Boot in diff folder windows on the same partition.

[rwagner]

Well I've figured out that the 4gb limit is only occuring in Ulead's moviefactory. I tried capturing in Ulead's DVD Workshop and easily captured a 4.7 gb file. Now if the video gods were being nice to me, all would be solved. But noooooo, for some reason I'm getting lines in the picture when it jump cuts from one scene to another. Also more artifacting in scenes where the camera is moving. So I can capture beautifully in Moviefactory, but am limited to 4gb files. Or I can capture larger than 4gb files in DVD workshop, but with inferior picture quality. Arrrrrrrrrrrggg!