DiVX (AVI) to (S)VCD using DVD2SVCD

[normano]

"VBR audio stream detected" ERROR
When I get this error my audio is out of sync and nothing I try works.
Finally I did alittle research on this error and found out that I can use NanDub looks like VirtualDub but allows VBR audio and it works the same I have had no issue and the audio is alwas on sync. The funny thing is that the avis it creates are allot smalller.

[Bongo]

sorry - cant get this to work

As soon as I get to section 2, and open up the file under the MISC tab, I get a message saying "The TMPGEnc file does not exist".
What gives? TMPGEnc was not mentioned at all.
Help,
Bongo

[LeeBear]

Fred Thompson: This guide assumes you have gotten DVD2SVCD to work before, as it wasn't design as a techinal support for the program itself. I suggest you goto www.doom9.org they have an excellent Q&A for both CCE and DVD2SVCD. There forum is also a great source to find solutions to technical problems, do I search there and I'm sure something will turn up.

Bongo: I'm a bit confused when you say "open up the file under the MISC tab", what file are you trying to open up and why? The MISC tab is only used to change the mode of DVD2SVCD to AVI2SVCD, and to set the output file type you want, MPEG1 or MPEG2.

-LeeBear

[offel]

mmmm, vfapi goes well,but then i get an error message saying:

video check-sum is different then from that of previous pass

?????????????????????????????????????

anybody else got this problem?????

[mrj03]

While trying to convert an AVI to SVCD using DVD2SVCD software and the

insttuctions on this webpage http://vcdhelp.com/forum/userguides/111846.php )
I got this error message:
cce encoding failed: Error:Video check-sum is different from that of previous pass.

Source video data or time code may be different. PLease check video tape or the

information file. Please check video tape or the information file
---information---
Current: check sum = 009366e1
Previous: check sum = 009230b9

[Grumworth]

Thanx LeeBear for that great article! Keep it updated! 8)

I just wanted to thank you,
and get a little consult.

I've created SVCD with parameters are:
film lenght 72 mins in mpeg2 480x480/23.976 NTSC
Max video bitrate 2408 kbps
Min video bitrate 400 kbps
Max video avg. bitrate 2230 kbps
Audio sampling rate 48000 hz
bitrate 192 kbps VBR 4-pass
the other setting were the same as in your guide...
playing the final SVCD on PC cause no problems at all :P , BUT
while playing it in standalone DVD Samsung SV-DVD1E, i've noticed a video problems: image just stops for a 0.5 second while the audio keeps playing, But there are NO sync problems at all. It seems like there are skips in frames in video stream. What causes it, i can't imagine,
maybe i need to set a lower max video bitrate
or a higher Min video bitrate ????
CD was overburned (file size was 805 mb while 80 min cd can handle "802 mb" - VCD Easy report) from VCD Easy on 1x speed. Maybe this cause the problem??

If someone knows the cure - please, reply!

[LeeBear]

offel and mrj03: when you do a multipass encode with CCE it creates a file with the extension .vaf that contain the information about bitrate allocation etc. from the previous pass and updates it on everypass you do to make it more effecient. It sounds like the checksum error might be because you forgot to erase the vaf file after encoding a different movie since DVD2SVCD uses the same file name for the vaf file, you'll get a checksum error cause the vaf won't be for the right movie. So before you encode with DVD2SVCD make sure any previous vaf file is deleted. If that's not the problem then it's probably the common CRC errors that CCE seems to generate once in awhile. You can find a Q&A and a solution to the problem at www.doom9.org in the CCE forum.

Grumworth: You say the video plays fine on a PC so at least we know where to start looking for the problem. First I doubt it'll be an overburning issue, since if that was a problem it'll only cause problems when you near the end of the disc not throughout the entire disc. There are a few things I would try though. First your audio is set to 48000 Hz, most players can handle it but it sometimes causes problems so you may want to try to use the SVCD standard of 44100 Hz. Secondly your min, max, bitrate settings look okay. I was looking at the DVD player compatibility and there seems to be conflicting reports on whether the player plays SVCD. This could be a stupid question but you have tried a different SVCD on your player before and it handles them right? If your player handles SVCD directly you don't have to use the header trick (like I did in my guide) so you would of set VCDEasy to make a SVCD instead of VCD. You did that I assume. Lastly is this video pausing that you are having consistent or random? That may help narrow the problem down.

-LeeBear

[normano]

I have succesfully made SVCDs with your guide, Thanks.
Last night I ran into an issue with one that I was working with.
Seems to have been in PAL format at 25 fps. Virtualdub did not give me any errors and everthing seems fine. I played it on my standalone DVD player that does play SVCDs and the video goes jittery every two seconds. The audio seems to stay in sync and the jittery issue is constant throughout the whole video and it appeared on both parts. Has anyone run into this same issue?
Is it becouse it is PAL?
Is it the 25 fps?

[Grumworth]

I have succesfully made SVCDs with your guide, Thanks.
Last night I ran into an issue with one that I was working with.
Seems to have been in PAL format at 25 fps. Virtualdub did not give me any errors and everthing seems fine. I played it on my standalone DVD player that does play SVCDs and the video goes jittery every two seconds. The audio seems to stay in sync and the jittery issue is constant throughout the whole video and it appeared on both parts. Has anyone run into this same issue?
Is it becouse it is PAL?
Is it the 25 fps?

I have the same problem... I've asked for a solve in a 2 posts back at this topic...

But in my case, the jitter problem occures not periodically, it has spontaneous character.
Video is in NTSC format with 23.967 fps.
DAMN! I thought, it will solve the problem, if i run it in PAL 25 fps !!!

[Radikins]

LeeBear...I can't think you enough for taking the time to publish your guide...For a newbie such as myself..it was clear and pretty simple to understand.

I followed you all the way through Chapters & Change Disc CD in VCDEasy...it saved the image in bin, cue format as you said it would.

I used Nero 5.5.8.0 so I did not download scandata.dat. I dragged the .mpg file according to the "How to make a SVCD with Nero 5+" guide.
The cd plays fine in my RCA RC5240P, however, the chapters and change disc cd is not there. The fast forward does not work either, it actually rewinds through the key frames. Could that be because my player does not support or should next time i include the step transferring scandata.dat into the EXT folder.

Is there something I missed...how do i get the bin, cue format image saved by VCDEasy into Nero Burning. I tried dragging it into the SEGMENT folder but the file is way too large for the cd. Any ideas?

[LeeBear]

Radikins: Simple solution to your problem. The problem is you're not burning the SVCD properly. You basically created another SVCD without the chapter structures that you created with VCDEasy. This is the correct way to burn the VCDEasy image file with Nero:
- Load up Nero
- When the wizard comes out, "cancel" it, "DON'T" choose "SVCD" or anything
- Now goto the menu ontop and choose "File -> Burn Image"
- A window will pop up asking you for the file you want to open, pick the ".cue" file that VCDEasy created NOT the ".bin".
- Hit write and that's it! You may have to check "Finalize CD" before hitting write or DVD player may not read the disc

Grumworth and normano: Sorry Grumworth I wasn't aware that you were dealing with PAL. Normano the jittery effect you describe is a common problem with 23.976 fps NTSC file to 25 fps PAL conversion or vice versa because the way the frameserver handles the 1 fps difference is to either repeat a certain frame (in the case of NTSC to PAL) or delete a frame every second. The result is that the movie has an unnatural look to it, like the jittering you describe. Fortunately there is a way to deal with this problem but it adds an extra inconvenient step. The proper way to do a PAL to NTSC transfer is this, I'll assume your AVI is 25 fps, but you live in an NTSC country so you need it to be 23.976 fps. What you want to do is change the framerate of the movie to 23.976 fps but do not remove any frames. Basically make the movie play slower (about 5%). Of course this will cause the audio to go out of sync so you will have to 'stretch' the audio so that it matches the new length of the video, you will have to use a sound editing program like Soundforge or Cool Edit for that. Once you have that done you can put them back together with VirutalDub. This is basically the way studios handle transferring there movies to PAL.

-LeeBear

[normano]

LeeBear
Thanks for the reply, I was not trying to convert the movie to NTSC I have a projector and a DVD players that can play PAL. Are you saying that your process converts Divx Pal to NTSC? Another thing is that I then took those SVCDs that I created and played them on my PC with WinDVD and did not see the issue.

[wisegrape]

I have a divx file with a vbr audio. I have tried to save the avi before using virtualdub however the file is way too large to save. I stopped it. For only 5 min of video it was over 2 gig. How do I save the avi in virtualdub to fix the vbr audio?

I did try to just load the unaltered divx avi in dvd2svcd and make my svcd. All appeared to work fine until cce had checksum errors. Could this be because of the vbr avi file? I haven't had any issues with cce2.5 before when using it with DVDs. I have read the FAQ's at DVD2SVCD site and may try the patch or updated dll if I cannot get this avi to work but I still think the problem is with the vbr source file.

I ended up saving the wav file using virtualdub and then encoded the mpeg2 in tmpgenc selecting the avi for video source and the wav for the audio source. I had to then split the 1.2gig file using bbmpeg and using vcdeasy to author. It turned out quite good but I have noticed some blockiness when played on my big screen tv.

I tried to encode the unaltered divx again but I got the checksum error once again. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[Draven]

zachattach and Draven: I think I know why only the second part of AVI is out of sync. In my guide when the movie was split we basically went from DiVX-Full Movie (VBR audio) to DiVX-Part1(PCM audo) + DiVX-Part2(PCM audio) instead of doing that try to save out the entire movie with the uncompressed audio. Then load up the new file and split it from that. So the steps would basically be the same except we're going from DiVX-Full Movie(VBR audio) to DiVX-Full Movie(PCM audio) to DiVX-Part1(PCM audio) + DiVX-Part2(PCM audio). If you can try that and it works I'll update my guide with the revised method.


-LeeBear

LeeBear . It worked out fine after your suggestions. Many thanks.
One other thing ,do you know if you could notice any changes to a better audioperformance if you change from 224kbit/s to 384kbit/s when you make svcd's ? I'm really interested of getting out a mpeg2 5+1 extension of a svcd but don't have time to learn how it could be done.

[wisegrape]

"First make sure video is set for direct stream copy (we do not want to re encoded when we split). Do this by clicking "Video -> Direct stream copy". Next make sure audio is set for avi and full processing mode. Do this by clicking "Audio -> AVI audio", then "Audio -> Full processing mode". Next click on "Audio -> Conversion" ...The next step is to click on "Audio -> Compression", we want an uncompress audio so we would choose " (PCM)"...Click on "File -> Save as AVI"..."

It really helps when you follow the direction step by step. Some how I missed the video>direct stream copy setting when saving the .avi.

Now with the audio vbr issue resolved the conversion from avi to svcd using DVD2SVCD went without a hitch. Thanks for the info. The SVCD looks great.

[Asi Malki]

No_Good once asked a question and I would like to post it again because there was no answer given and I preety stuck the my self (it's a newbie question):

1. Upon completion of DVD2VCD program, it saved the files as Encoded_Video_CCE_NTSC.mpv . Is the file extension suppose to be .mpv ?

2. What is this file bbmpeg_muxed_file00.mpg (its the only file that had the .mpg extension.)

3. Do I name the file within the program or after it's finished encoding? (i.e. Spiderman.mpg)

In other words, where is the movie, I hope it's not bbmpeg_muxed_file00.mpg because this file shown on my WMP as a green and fliped movie and you can hardly see anything, but on the other hand, the subtitles worked...

[xxBladExx]

This one is a great guide LeeBear.
But I do have just one question, I hope you can help me (I'm new with DVD2SVCD).
I'm trying to put subs to my movie but I can't succeed. Can you please make a guide for me, how to add subs to my movie?

Thx

[xxBladExx]

This one is a great guide LeeBear.
But I do have just one question, I hope you can help me (I'm new with DVD2SVCD).
I'm trying to put subs to my DVD movie but I can't succeed. Can you please make a guide for me, how to add subs to my movie?

Thx

[pvk]

Hi LeeBear

Your Guide is very clear and easy to follow, which is better than most Guides and impressive for a first time guide writer :P .

I have tried to follow the instructions and ran into problems.
You wrote: Note: You will not be able to join a AVI that uses VBR for audio directly. To get around this you have to resave the file with an uncompressed wav for the audio stream. Step d shows you how to set that up.
-- and in step d: The next step is to click on "Audio -> Compression", we want an uncompress audio so we would choose " (PCM)". This will also get rid of the audio sync issue because of the VBR error from step (a) when we save the avi file later.

I have tried all this with "Collateral Damage", but when I test it as You suggest later:
" You may first want to play the AVI files with Media Player to make sure nothing has gone wrong and that each part ends at where you wanted it to"
there is still an audio sync issue
Not as bad as the 20 seconds I got by direct conversion of the Avi-file with AVI2SVCD, but still some annoying seconds.

I must emphazise that I have only tested with MediaPlayer and NOT converted With AVI2SVCD (DVD2SVCD 1.09 build 3), as I don't expect that convertion to remove the sync problem;
but then, what to do??


Is it possible to get a precise sync? And could You tell how?

[LdSr]

First of all, exellent guide. All I want to know is that is there a way to batch encode with this guide?
1 hour of movie usually takes me 2 hours to encode. So, when I sleep, I want to do 3 or 4. (Don't really want to wake up every 2 hours to set dvd2svcd )

Thanks

[LeeBear]

Asi Malki: if you just left DVD2SVCD to use default file names for the files then yes the final MPEG file will be called bbmpeg_muxed_file00.mpg. This file contains both the video and audio stream which is the final outcome. You can rename it to what you want (in my guide I named it spidey.mpg). The file Encoded_Video_CCE_NTSC.mpv is 'just' the video file created by Cinema Craft Encoder, it doesn't contain any audio, this is one of the two files DVD2SVCD uses to create the final MPEG file bbmpeg_muxed_file00.mpg. Now about your question regarding Windows Media player showing the file as green and flipped upside down, this is a CODEC problem and not the fault of the guide or DVD2SVCD. You can do a search on the forum and you'll be sure to find other people with the same problems and solutions for it.

pvk: Virtual Dub usually gets the audio right when you save it out as uncompress but sometimes it does mess up. If the audio is out of sync, you can try this, before you save it out goto "Audio->Interleaving" and adjust the "audio skew correction" then save it out. You may have to do this a few times trying different values until you get it in sync, it usually doesn't take more then 3 tries though.

LdSr: If you have the hard drive space you can batch encode the same way you would normally batch encode with DVD2SVCD in DVD mode. The only difference since there's no ripping involve with AVI file's you would have to let DVD2SVCD encode the audio then pause the program after it's done. And do the same for the second part. Then edit the DVD2SVCD batch file to make it finish the rest of the job. Just remember to create seperate output paths for each of the parts you encode or else when the second part is encoded it'll overwrite the first part.

-LeeBear

[hazuki]

Hello Guys. First of all, Thanks Lee for this guide...i've followed it to the letter, apart from changing the odd thing, and i've got me movie, ALMOST! What my problem is...

When putting the disc into my DVD Player (Its a DVDRW Player, On My TV) it all works ok, all the chapters and everything. SO i thought Great, i skipped through a few chapters just to check, and i realised that all the sound is slightly distorted, now, i dont think its out of sync, its just all (especially voices) very deep. The woman at the start sounds completely like a man! Is this a common problem, will it be able to be fixed?!

As for everything else, its all good... I would be so thankful if you could help me overcome this matter, if i can get past this, i can move on on my own after that with all my movies....Thanks in advance!

-Rob

[hazuki]

Ok...Right. I have just re-played it again on my DVD player through the TV downstairs again.... My dad watched it and he seemed to notice how even the actual movie seemed just a fraction too slow as the same with the audio.... I have only went through the whole AVI -> SVCD process with 1 part of them film so far, as i've split it into 3 parts as its quite long. Now is there an easy way to just spead everything up slightly by maybe a few mili-seconds or a second? What programs, if any, are good for doing this? Will i have to re-start completely, because i have done real well, everythings working and i want to just do something simple like say open the *.cue file in some program, and speed it up slightly? Thankyou guys, and thanks LeeBear not only for your great guide, but also for your attention to users questions, you seem to be a very helpful person and answer everyone! CHeers m8! (bah...sorry bout the long post )

[hazuki]

Please help...I haven't gone and posted in a dead forum have i?

[MadeInJapan]

HI, I'm pretty new here but have been using DVD2SVCD for awhile. I have, without issue (until now) been able to make AVI (DivX) to SVCD without any sync issue, so I read the guide here with great enthusiasm. I didn't have VirtualDub so found the version mentioned here and tried to use it. I should add also that I use Windows2000, Professional. Anyway, here is the issue. I followed the guide all the way up until I click on Audio and then Compression so that I can set compression to none but the audio never loads. An hour glass is present but continues indefinitely. I finally have to use Cont/Alt/Del to get VirtualDub to close. I have tried this on 4 different versions of VirtualDub (some even earlier versions, and all the way up to the most recent) with the same results. My question is, do I really have to go into compression to make sure the movie's audio won't be compressed? What are the default settings in that window? If it is not compressed to begin with, then I can avoid this step. However, I don't want to go all the way through the AVI2SVCD process, which takes a long time just to find that my movie is still out of sync. I should add that I am using CCE with DVD2SVCD with no issue for awhile. Also, just for some further info on the movie I'm trying to encode. It is a copy of DieHardIII that has permanent Japanese subtitles. It is encoded at 576x384 with 24.00fps and audio sampling is at 32000Hz. Hope someone can help me out here or offer another method. I had originally made an SVCD from this close to 700mb AVI file just to find that the movie became further and further out of sync as it progressed, to the point that at the end of the movie, video was behind the audio by about 4 seconds.

[MadeInJapan]

I went ahead with the re-encoding without being able to open up compression under the Audio tab (as described above) in Virtual-Dub but it didn't seem to matter. when I loaded the new AVI, and looked at its information, the audio was not compressed! So, I went ahead with DVD2SVCD (AVI2SVCD portion) and came across another problem. Bicubic resizing and adding boarders didn't work so I edited the avisynth script box back to its original state, after a recovery, hoping my SVCD will turn out okay. What happened after I hit the save button in that box with the modifications with bicubic and boarders in Avisynth was that CCE would initially load but then crash. With the original text it didn't crash so I went back to that. Unfortunately, the video will probably to be 4:3 aspect, so a bit stretched I'm afraid...sort of like PAL is on NTSC TV. We'll see. Any suggestions on this, or if someone else has had CCE crash like this, let me know. No window came up to shut it down or anything...it just went away...weird.

[jrv331]

LeeBear,
I used your guided and the quality was exellent. I do have one question that either I missed or wasnt covered. How do I get dvd2svcd to encode both parts of my avi file( for example spidy1 and spidy2). Can it be set to run a batch job? Or do I have to do one then the other? Im using cce if that matters.

Thanks for the guide
John

[wholagan]

LeeBear,

This is a great guide. Very easy to read and follow! I've made many SVCDS already. Unfortunately I came across a problem right in the beginning. I've done the Check for bad frames which came up 0 and then split the movie into 2 parts. Here is where I've encountered this problem. When I save the first part as usual, a message pops up saying:

Virtual Dub Error
The requested audio compression is not compatible with the input format. Check that the sampling rate and channel count of the input match those of the requested format.

What does that mean? I am still a newbie at this but made many successful SVCDs and this is the first time I've ever encountered this. Thanks for your help in advance!

[WarSong]

I'm a newbie at this but and I tried 2 other guides that failed. After trying this guide it helped me made my first successful divx 2 svcd conversion. I am also surprised how great the movie looks on my dvd player and tv screen.

Thanks a lot.

[Newbie_]

Hi! This really detailed guide! Thanks LeeBear.

you probably have missed the frame 82220 ?