AVI to VCD playing problems

[pgoodman]

I am having a problem when I convert to VCD of the sound and video getting kinda jumbled when it plays. The VCD will be doing fine and then it is like it fast forwards and the sound doesn't. In just a few mins the video will slow back down and the sound will catch up. The VCD's play fine on my pc so I am wondering what I am doing wrong. Can someone please help?

[KingJohn]

You don’t say what programs you used, if you Used TMPGEnc to convert the AVI to mpeg 1, did you "Load" a VCD template, this makes sure the output is a fully compliant mpeg 1, which your DVD player should not have problems with.

Also use high quality disks, sometimes cheap disk can also cause this problem.

[pgoodman]

Yeah I use Virtual Dub and TMPGEnc to encode with. I have read the guide about "audio drifting" which is what problem I am having. The guide did not help me any though. It acctually messed me up a little more.

[KingJohn]

Yep the guides are no use to everyone. If the disk plays OK on your PC, it can only be the way it was made (mpeg 1 template) or the type of disk you used (use higher quality)

[Big_Jit]

I've found that this is usually due to the type of disc that you've burned or the disc has a scratch. I get this problem with CD-RW's especially after they get scratched...

Try burning to another disc, maybe another brand...

[AlecWest]

PGoodman,

King John does have a point regarding disk quality ... but there's also the quality (or "pickyness") of the DVD player to take into consideration. My DVD player is the Apex AD1100-W. My son's DVD player is a Panasonic (model unknown). Not long ago, I burned some VCDs using a very cheap generic CD-R brand sold by Walmart. They play fine on my DVD player but experience instabilities (exactly like what you mention) when played on my son's DVD player. However, when I switched to Memorex CD-Rs, burned VCDs played equally well on both machines. Obviously, my Apex is more forgiving of poor disk quality than my son's Panasonic DVD player.

So, I suspect the problems you're experiencing are related to either or both things -- the quality of the CD-R and/or the pickyness of your player.

[pgoodman]

Thanks everyone I use Memorex cd-r's. I have a fairly cheap GE DVD player but I don't understand why some of the movies I have put on VCD work while others don't. I started out burning with VCD Easy but it doesn't reconize my new burner and I have started using Nero you think that might affect it? Also I have been burning a little faster than recommened on the media could this have an affect? I burn at 48x and the CD-R's are suppose to support 40x.

[Big_Jit]

I use TDK and have never had any sort of problem with TDK. Maybe that's the wy to Go. I have an Apex AD-1500.

Use VCDEasy to create the Disc Image (.bin/.cue files) and then Use Nero to burn the Image... VCDEasy uses a program called CDRDAO to burn Discs and while it is a good program for burning Images it doesn't work with all CD-RW Drives. VCDEasy tells CDRDAO to burn @ 4x unless you specify otherwise. Burning at 4x can fix some playback problems. And it is a good chance that burning @ 48x when the discs are only meant to be burned @ 40x is what is causing the read errors on your DVD player.

Note: burning at higher speeds than the disc is made for does work sometimes but as a suggestion all VCD's should be burnt at 4x to avoid playback and read error problems...

[ya_jai]

I'm not sure but just my 2 cents sound like problem with frame rate to me. What template did you use? NTSC, NTSCfilm or PAL, VCD or SVCD? So after you tried everything, burnning software, media brand etc and nothing help I would come back to the way of encoding process.

[pgoodman]

Well I am making VCD's and have uses both NTSC and NTSCFlim depending on my frame rate. None of the movies I have downloaded have been in perfect 23,970 or 29,970 fps though. They might be like 23,978 or something like that.

[ya_jai]

Did you try to convert from PAL to NTSC? A lot of ppl claim that they have this exact same problem when they converted from one format to another? What format(PAL/NTSC) for original avi file? Sorry for too many question.

[pgoodman]

Not too sure ya jai how do I check that and find out?

[ya_jai]

In TMPGEnc, first select new project and enter, to clear any previous setting. Load your avi in, check at the bottom of TMPGEnc screen you will see resolution, and frame rate such as " MPEG-1 640x352 23.976fps CBR.......". What template to load depends on these two infos. In this case avi is in NTSC-film becuz of 23.976.

First I'd suggest you to use template that suit for original file, even though it is different format from where you live to see if you player can handle across formats. If you still have problem, pls post again so some others can help you for next step.

[thomasanweiler]

are the avi files in divx 5, if so get the old versions of divx and encode with them, then try your normal conversion method, see if that helps

[KingJohn]

Thanks everyone I use Memorex cd-r's. I have a fairly cheap GE DVD player but I don't understand why some of the movies I have put on VCD work while others don't. I started out burning with VCD Easy but it doesn't reconize my new burner and I have started using Nero you think that might affect it? Also I have been burning a little faster than recommened on the media could this have an affect? I burn at 48x and the CD-R's are suppose to support 40x.

You may need to re-install VCD Easy or use the Force ASPI command

http://www.adaptec.com/worldwide/support/driverdetail.html?cat=%2fOperating+System%2fM...=aspi_v470.exe

See readme.txt for info