CCE experience needed

[cchitson11]

I'm having great difficulty learning to use cce 2.50. I have been using rempg to lower bitrate on dvd rips, but I recently got a few dvd's frm maylasia that are NTSC but they are interlaced. When I try to use rempg and check match source it says it will take 270hrs to encode. If I use progressive only it drops to 70hrs which is still three times longer than any Region 1 dvd I have encoded with rempg. So I thought I would use Tmpgenc (Some experience with encoding vcd) or CCE(absolutely no experience). I have heard so many good thing about cce so i gave it a try.
I filed served the ripped mpg file using DVD2Avi (Could not get Avisynth to Work with Winxp) and Vfapi. This is where I run into problems what settings to you use on Interlaced video for playback on Ntsc TV. I have tried a couple different settings. When I play the recoded clip on the computer it plays fine. But when I author the clip and burn to Dvd-rw the video is really jumpy? I have looked I quides on Doom9's site for cce. And they are not specific enough on settings. I Know this has to do with the interlaced video, but do not Know the settings to use. Please help!

Also If some could help with progressive video settings, I would like to start using cce for all re-encoding.

[EnemyWithin]

I had the same problems getting avisynth to work. Make sure you are using the latest Avisynth v2.05 with the latest mpeg2dec.dll (not sure version...check www.doom9.org avisynth forums). Upgrading those 2 files stopped CCE from crashing for me.

From what I have read, jumpy video on playback is usually a field ordering issue. On this screen (picture from the doom9.org tutorial):



Change the value of "Upper Field First" and see if that helps.

[spooki]

If you use "bitrate viewer" on the vob files it tells you in the bottom right hand corner if you need to check upper field first or not. if it says Fieldtopfirst=yes then you need to check it.

So far only come across two movies that needed it

Heist and Swordfish

[Poplar]

Hi, you are lucky because I read this thread. Your problem is not field order or anything else. It's the DAR flag. Set DAR to 4:3 and everything will be fine. You don't have a 16:9 HDTV, do you?

[RoopeT]

And if you're encoding as interlaced video, uncheck progressive, linear and zig zag.

[cchitson11]

Thanks for all the help really learnt alot about cce in the last 24 hours. It was a field order problem btw. the whole progressive and interlaced thing has always been a bit of confusion for me but it's becoming alot clearer now. I've got a new one for you the Video I'm trying to incode is 4:3 (but the actually picture is 16:9 widescreen) is there a way to crop this something to make it 16:9 just in case i get a widescreen TV on down the road?

[EnemyWithin]

Doom9.org has a nice article explaining aspect ratios.

In particular, read this:

There are also DVDs which have a DAR of 4:3 but contain widescreen picture. In fact, it should say letterboxed widescreen. These DVDs have been mastered as just explained. When you watch these DVDs on a 16:9 TV the picture will both have to be stretched horizontally and vertically whereas when having an anamorphic widescreen picture the picture will only have to be stretched horizontally, giving a larger vertical resolution to work with and therefore a better picture. In the early DVD days letterboxed widescreen transfers were quite popular, especially amongst US studios, whereas in Europe where 16:9 TVs are more popular, 16:9 has been something of a standard from the very beginning. Fortunately nowadays most DVDs are 16:9, and only some stubborn directors and cheap studios refuse to have a new 16:9 transfer created.