How is it possible to rip a 3 hour SVCD movie on 2-3 CD-R?

[Beautiful Alone]

How do you do it? movies like Titanic, Pearl Harbor, and Lord of the Rings are all 3 hours long. How is it possible to rip it on a SVCD with only 2-3 CD-Rs? do you have to downgrade the movie or something inorder to fit it on a 2-3 CD-R?

As for me, it seem to take atleast 5 CD-R's for a 3 hour SVCD movie.

[PimpInDaHouse]

Put one hour on each CD. Use a bitrate calculator to find out what bitrate to use it may not look as good as if you used 5 CDs but that is how you fit it on 3 CDs.

[Beautiful Alone]

decrease the bitrate, would'nt that be the same quality as a VCD?

[snowmoon]

Some things to take into account...

1) 16:9 -> 4:3 conversion you loose 33% of the picture and that leads to a direct lessening of the needed average bitrate.

2) SVCD's are ( or should be ) VBR and therefore can take advantage of the normally wasted bandwidth on CBR padding.

So 60 minutes/disk is pushing it for a quality/action movie like LOTR, personally I would probably go for 4 disks or try and get >80minute disks.

[sterno]

One other thing, do them as NTSCFilm instead of NTSC whenever possible. 24fps instead of 30fps gives you less data to compress into the same space. You can also use 192k audio instead of 224k for a little more space and not much loss of quality.

I've put over an hour of moderately-high-action widescreen video on one 80-minute SVCD without any bad artifacts. I got somewhere over 80 minutes of low-action widescreen movie on one CD with only a couple moires.

[snowmoon]

Just a FYI: the 29 vs 24 scene. I've been back and forth a few times. With an encoder like CCE it really does not buy you much. If your source is 24 then use 24 if it's not ( most of mine is analog cap ) use 29 w/interlacing. Encoders that are properly designed to handle interlacing the repeated fields compress down to almost nothing.

[sterno]

Yeah, I know it doesn't make much difference. On something that just had a few grainy scenes switching from 30 to 24 helped clean it up a little, so I figure it's worth trying when I've got a 24fps source. Most of my compression is analog captures, too, often from VHS tape, so my testing is kind of limited.

Do you have an opinion on how well tmpgenc handles the repeated fields?

[snowmoon]

I know I'm going to take hell for this, but I personally don't believe TMPGenc hadles true interlaced or 3:2 pulldown materal very well nativly. It does have a kick @ss inverce telecine though. Once I started using CCE and just fed it straight interlaced materal and it handled it like a breese. LSX is also very good at field based streams.