here is some of my file format info what do I need make vcd?

[Roakie]

under details this was there

audio format: MPEG Layer-3,56 kBit/s, 24,000 Hz, Stereo

video format: 352 x 240, 24 Bits, 36130 Frames, 14.985 Frames/Sec, 45
KB/Sec, MS-MPEG4 V3

and this was in the title (videocd).ts. of one of the .avi files

audio format: MPEG Layer-3,56 kBit/s, 24,000 Hz, Stereo

video format: 352 x 288, 24 Bits, 41898 Frames, 12.500 Frames/Sec, 42
KB/Sec, MS-MPEG4 V3

and this was in the title (videocd).internal.ts. of another .avi file

so what software do I need and are these files already to become
VCD's?

some files under video format have divix codec where the MS-MPEG4 V3
are on the there files

some DIVXMPG4 V3

some audio formats have Microsoft ADPCM,22,050 Hz, 4 Bit, Stereo

some video formats have 280 x 168, 24 Bits, 1179 Frames, 15.000
Frames/Sec, 101 KB/Sec, IR32

so what do I need to know about these files?

[ya_jai]

What you need to know from your avi (divx) files is Frame rate and resolution so that you can determine what template or what format (NTSC/PAL) to use when you encode to mpeg1/mpeg2 (vcd/svcd).

I would never encode crossing the format of original avi file. If my avi file is in PAL (352x288, 25fps), I would use PAL template in TMPGenc the same goto NTSC (352x240, 29.97fps).

So from you info. you can see that
1 You first avi file is in NTSC resolution 352x240 frame rate 14.985fps(internally 29.97fps).

video format: 352 x 240, 24 Bits, 36130 Frames, 14.985 Frames/Sec, 45
KB/Sec, MS-MPEG4 V3

One more thing you have to concern is about audio format. After you encode (test a short clip for 1-2 mins) and have no sound in your movie then you have to get the wav file out of your avi file and use this one for audio source instead. You can serch more all the details in this forum just use a SERCG button.

2.You second one should be in PAL becuz of resolution 352x288 and frame rate 12.5fps(internally 25fps)

video format: 352 x 288, 24 Bits, 41898 Frames, 12.500 Frames/Sec, 42
KB/Sec, MS-MPEG4 V3

3. The last one, a bit hard to determine becuz it comes with different resolution which can be both PAL and NTSC, but from frame rate which is 15fps(internally 30fps) I would go with NTSC.

some video formats have 280 x 168, 24 Bits, 1179 Frames, 15.000
Frames/Sec, 101 KB/Sec, IR32

[MrPhelps]

In the tools on the left there are a number of great programs to convert/ encode.
I have found a lot of difficulty with file shared program movie downloads.
It has almost come to a point where its not worth it ,But thanks to the excellent group they can help a lot.

good luck.

[ya_jai]

I have downloaded a couple of movies (Divx) out of internet, and already encoded to SVCD in order to watch on my TV. So far I can tell that the quality isnt that good as ripped from DVD, but not really that bad as you said MrPhelps.

You should download only movie that ripped from DVD not video cam. Mostly new movie will come in v-cam rip format which is watchable in your computer but not good to re-encode to vcd/svcd. I d/l both kind but I re-encoded only DVD-rip.

Is it worth to d/l?????
I would say YES/NO.
Yes becuz you can watch movie before it comes out in DVD format and if you like it you can buy DVD later, you don't have to re-encoded this kind of movie. In other case I d/l old movies that I really like and don't have DVD, then I will re-encode and burn to CD to watch them later. Most of the time I can find DVD-rip for old movies and quality ain't bad at all.
No if you still connect to internet with 56k modem period.

[oddbod77]

What you need to know from your avi (divx) files is Frame rate and resolution so that you can determine what template or what format (NTSC/PAL) to use when you encode to mpeg1/mpeg2 (vcd/svcd).

With modern versions of TMPGEnc (any that have "Project Wizard" in the File menu) you don't need to know either of these things, even if the framerate or resolution is non-standard.

I would never encode crossing the format of original avi file. If my avi file is in PAL (352x288, 25fps), I would use PAL template in TMPGenc the same goto NTSC (352x240, 29.97fps).

Why not? It works fine. The idea is to encode for the device you intend to play it on, because its really annoying playing an NTSC VCD into a PAL player only to find out your television can only display an NTSC signal in black n white.

BTW this also means that if you only intend to watch movies on your PC then there is no need to spend hours converting them to VCD, especially for some of the screeners that you find on P2P systems.

After you encode (test a short clip for 1-2 mins) and have no sound...

If you are using TMPGENC just let it encode say 30 seconds worth (indicated by the 'source position' time) click STOP then try watching it. You shouldn't have sound problems with a newer version (2.5 or higher) of the program as it can handle most compressed audio formats, it was only older versions that had trouble with this. Of course AC3 soundtracks are an extra pain in the ass, in which case you will have to do some forum surfing to learn how to convert them.

3. The last one, a bit hard to determine becuz it comes with different resolution which can be both PAL and NTSC, but from frame rate which is 15fps(internally 30fps) I would go with NTSC.

As stated above, new versions of TMPGEnc don't care about the framerate or resolution of the source file.

some video formats have 280 x 168, 24 Bits, 1179 Frames, 15.000
Frames/Sec, 101 KB/Sec, IR32

If this won't play or has no audio then go here to get the necessary codec. But this last file is poor quality anyway so it may not be worth the effort.

Just out of interest, is the file with "(videocd).internal.ts." in the title Triple X by any chance? If it is then the quality is also very poor, even for a screener. Oh well it would appear as if you only have half of it anyway.

Hope some of this helps. Cya.

[ya_jai]

With modern versions of TMPGEnc (any that have "Project Wizard" in the File menu) you don't need to know either of these things, even if the framerate or resolution is non-standard.

I am not sure about Project Wizard in TMPGenc. Have you ever seen Divx with resolution of PAL (352x288) but frame rate of NTSC (23.976/29.97)? I'm wondering what template TMPGenc will use with this kind of avi. And also Project Wizard I believe come only with Plus version which a lot of ppl might not have it.

Why not? It works fine. The idea is to encode for the device you intend to play it on, because its really annoying playing an NTSC VCD into a PAL player only to find out your television can only display an NTSC signal in black n white

Lucky you that it works fine. BUT It might not work fine all the time. Somtime you will get jumping or jerking movie if you convert from one format to nother format. A lot of player can handle different format of VCD very well. Mine is one and all my friends' player with PAL system can play all NTSC VCDs that I sent to them. So if the player can play different format why bother convert it.

If you are using TMPGENC just let it encode say 30 seconds worth (indicated by the 'source position' time) click STOP then try watching it. You shouldn't have sound problems with a newer version (2.5 or higher) of the program as it can handle most compressed audio formats, it was only older versions that had trouble with this. Of course AC3 soundtracks are an extra pain in the ass, in which case you will have to do some forum surfing to learn how to convert them.

You are such a lucky dog, arn't you? 5 out of 10 d/l movie especially for KAZAA have this problem. And I have already mentions about how to get wav file out of avi which is not really pain in the ass if you know what to do. As simple as 3 clicks.

As stated above, new versions of TMPGEnc don't care about the framerate or resolution of the source file.

Sorry, I've never used wizard with my TMPGend plus. It doesn't fit me any way becuz I alwasy tweak my setting. If you convert or rip a lot of movies you will know that sometimes if not a lot of times wizard can't help you much especially ppl who would like to play with XVCD or SVCD not just a pain standard one.

Hope this cleare your understanding. It's just personal opinions anyway :P

[oddbod77]

I am not sure about Project Wizard in TMPGenc. Have you ever seen Divx with resolution of PAL (352x288) but frame rate of NTSC (23.976/29.97)? I'm wondering what template TMPGenc will use with this kind of avi.

No I haven't seen an avi like this, so I had to make one to test this situation. I encoded it with TMPGEnc-2.58.44.152-Free (the newest) using the standard PAL, NTSC and NTSCFilm templates. They all worked correctly and played at the expected framerates. You still have to pick the template to use - the wizard is not actually magic.

Sorry, I've never used wizard with my TMPGend plus. It doesn't fit me any way becuz I alwasy tweak my setting. If you convert or rip a lot of movies you will know that sometimes if not a lot of times wizard can't help you much especially ppl who would like to play with XVCD or SVCD not just a pain standard one.

Please try it before you say it is not for you, I think you will be pleasantly surprised. Roakie wants to make VCD's and using a new copy of TMPGEnc will allow him to do that without too many problems.

Peace

[ya_jai]

Please try it before you say it is not for you, I think you will be pleasantly surprised. Roakie wants to make VCD's and using a new copy of TMPGEnc will allow him to do that without too many problems

When did I tell Roakie to follow my way? At first I just gave him information that he asked for. If you really read what I posted before started responding you will see that I explained what info he gave. I didnt even tell him what template or what setting to use.

I don't think I posted my setting in this thred so that you can say I should try Project wizard, eh? I always encode/convert to SVCD which I can fit up to 60 mins in one CDR. I encode at res 352x480 (CQ) with all the setting have to change everytime to get the most out of one CD (800MB). And from my experiences I don't think I need one.

No I haven't seen an avi like this, so I had to make one to test this situation. I encoded it with TMPGEnc-2.58.44.152-Free (the newest) using the standard PAL, NTSC and NTSCFilm templates. They all worked correctly and played at the expected framerates. You still have to pick the template to use - the wizard is not actually magic.

It's kind of you to all newbies here that you've already made some test for them. But like I mentioned before "what work for you might not work for others" Are you gurantee 100% that if I encode with any template it will work with my player?