DVD to DVDr - My own Tutorial V 1.9

[EnemyWithin]

Try eDonkey or kazaa.

[lynnsabcs]

I've ripped several single layer DVDs in DVDDecrypter, made the changes in InfoEdit following directions posted here to the letter. I can play back from my hard drive on my PC movie player.

I can't get Veritas Record Now DX to burn a DVD that will play in either my PC or on my stand-alone DVD. It gives me a disk error message. I downloaded the lasted trial of Nero to see if that would help and it also gives me an error when it tries to burn the last file. I did a full erase on my low-price Pringo disks thinking that would help.

I'll play with it this weekend, but I can't help thinking there is a setting on one of the software pieces on these 3 steps that I have missed?

I would love to be able to read/write directly in DVDDecrypter, but my Windows98 machine won't let me.

LynnsABCs

[blindy007]

Enemy,

You think it might be the media even though they do work in my player on other dvds I was able to make? I guess I will order a few expensive ones and find out if they work. I kind of hope they don't just so I don't have to keep buying them. Also could it be my stand alone? Pioneer DVC503. Should I maybe think Iof getting a new one and if so what would you think. Sorry for being a bit off topic there.

LynnsABC

It sounds like you are using DVDRW to burn on and when I did the same starting out Nero would crap out right at the end. As sson as I switched to DVDR it fixed the problem. The burn completed sucessfully. Hope that helps.

[EnemyWithin]

blindy007,

You could also take the copies you have made so far and take them down to a local electronics store. See if you can play them in any of the DVD players there.

[lynnsabcs]

Trying to burn my finished ripped DVD using Nero. I used the DVD data steps. It burns the complete disk and says it is good. When I try to play it in my PC or stand alone Apex AD-1500 (which is DVD- compatible) it says disk with an unsupported format?

thanks for continued help!

LynnsABCs

[EnemyWithin]

For Nero, you need to select the last DVD template (UDF/ISO). Then add your VIDEO_TS and AUDIO_TS folders and burn.

Tutorial: http://mpucoder.kewlhair.com/derrow/nero.html

[Fredrick]

Just did John Q and it was a bear. Played fine in IFOEdit DVD player and PowerDVD. Burned using Nero. Played fine in my Philips and Apex standalones but not my Pioneer 434. Just got a searching message. Kept playing around with the first play in IFOEdit and finally got it to play in all my standalones. Using get VTS sectors didn't solve this problem. I ran into several DVD's that acted this way. Some standalones are very picky about the start addresses. If your standalone plays fine with some ripped DVD's and not others, it's most likely the same problem I had. Just because it plays in IFOEdit DVD player and PowerDVD doesn't mean it's going to play in a standalone.

[blindy007]

Fredrick

This might be a question you can not answer, but what dvd player might have the best chance of playing everything with out having to go in Ifoedit and change first play things. It is a lot harder for me to do that then to just buy a new player that plays pretty much anything you throw at it.

Enemy

I thought I mmight have to just do that. But, I do not need a VIDEO_TS.VOB on my finished copy?

Thanks

[Fredrick]

Most Apex players play anything you put in them. Just got a Phillips DVD724 that plays everything, even the cheap media that skips on my Pioneer 434. The thing I don't like about it is closed caption doesn't display. It also has wierd subtitle displays. It also plays DVD-RW where my Apex 703 won't. You don't need a VIDEO_TS.VOB on your final copy.

[blindy007]

Fredrick

Thanks for the info. I will have to do some looking around and see what I can find. Thanks again

[blindy007]

Fredrick

Where did you get your Phillips from? Just wondering to see if I might be able to pick one up also. Thanks

[Lula1]

Hi EnemyWithin,

I have got 2 links here that state I should use "DVD-Video" option for burning with NERO and not DVD-UDF/ISO as you stated . Can you clear that up ? Thank's .

www.doom9.org/mpg/nero-dvdburn.html

www.vcdhelp.com/nerodvd.htm

[mdm]

Lula1:

One reason *not* to use the DVD-Video option in Nero is because it checks to see if all the files are there and valid. I recently made a backup of a DVD and stripped out only the wide-screen version. Nero told me there were missing VOBs, but I really knew everything was ok. I then burned it in UDF/ISO mode and the movie, extras and chapter selections all work perfectly (I just don't ever select the wide-screen version of the movie).

[tyee]

Hi Blackout
One question on Maestro - you said -

"right click on the audio track and select "Create Sync Audio Track". Highlight your video track in blue from the list at the top of the new window then click on "assign audio file". Steer the explorer to the location of your AC3 file on your drive and then click on the "Sync Audio Timecode" tickbox on the bottom left which will become ungreyed, turning this box on. Then hit "Create Audio File" and create a new AC3 file, this new AC3 file will be perfectly synced to the Timecode of the Video. If it then asks to replace file in the timeline say "yes". Very cool. None of this "import black box image offest rubbish or frame/offset calculations required. "


I tried the above on LOTRings after I split it to 2 folders (to make 2-DVD5 disks) but could not get it the second half (Folder 2) to sync properly. Folder 2 started at chapter 24. I used DVDDecrypter to rip. DVDDecrypter wrote a file stating a -243ms delay for the ac3 soundtrack. You would think that Maestro could account for this and create a properly synced track but it couldn't. I tried 4 ways to sync it up -

1. dragged ac3 track so it started at timecode 0, to aligne with video.
2. disabled "use ac3 timecode" in preferences.
3. right click ac3 track and choose 'create sync audio track' with 'sync to timecode' box checked.
4. right click ac3 track and choose 'create sync audio track' with 'sync to timecode' box not checked.

All 4 methods gave me a final muxed .vob with a 243ms delay for the audio still present!
I had to add the dreaded black box to the start of the video timeline to delay the video, then drag the audio so that the time difference was 243ms. This solved the problem after remuxing.

So - should Maestro have found this or have you ever tried splitting a movie like this?
I have never split movies until now,just to try it, and I have never had to right click to create a synced audio track because it always has been in sync. Maestro's default is to use the timecode to sync audio/video unless disabled in preferences.

Tyee

[lynnsabcs]

>For Nero, you need to select the last DVD template (UDF/ISO). Then add >your VIDEO_TS and AUDIO_TS folders and burn.

>Tutorial: http://mpucoder.kewlhair.com/derrow/nero.html

I followed this tutorial to the letter and I still have a disk error in both PC and DVD player?

thanks

Lynnsabcs

[blindy007]

Fredrick
I picked up a 724 today and it works great. But, one question. Have you 724?
The movie is located in VTS_01_1-VTS_01_5 I think. But anyway, after stripping out unwanted audio tracks the main movie fits perfect on a dvd. I just used the files created by Ifoedit after stripping and ran get VTS Sectors on all ifo files and saved them. The dvd plays fine on my pc from the created disc and from the copy on my hard drive but when i put it in the 724 it says resume play and at first started about maybe five minutes or so into the movie and it says that it is the first chapter. I tried skipping to the last chapter and then it sort of froze and now it starts from the credits whenever I put the disc in. Just wondering if you might have some ideas? Or maybe someone else might too. Thanks a bunch tried ripping John Q and playing it on the

[Fredrick]

blindy007
Few questions.
What media are you using? What movie? How did you rip the DVD? What settings did you use in IFOEdit for ripping the audio etc.? My 724 plays everthing.

[blindy007]

I am using some cheap mediaa from Supermedia.com
which worked on the 724 with the Sweetest Thing
movie is John Q
ripped with DVD Decryptor in file mode and did not change anything from defaults
latest version of Ifoedit: loaded right ifo chose strip streams
did not change any of the default settings
kept the 5.1 audio and english subtitle
ran get VTS Sectors and saved files
here I am a bit confused though.
Without going into a huge discussion about this but I am blind and use a screen reader program to use the computer. The reason I said the before statement is that I got in aan agrument with another person on vcdhelp forum about being blind and backing up dvds. He just could not understand it and was quite rude. But that is another issue all together.
All I did was hit get VTS Sectors and then saved the file. I am not sure if I was suppose to look for anything to see if it worked or not.
burned with Nero 5.5.9.9 in UDF/ISO mode

thanks

[Blackout]

tyee,

yes, you are right. Ive found that for large delays the Maestro "ac3 sync" function does not really work. You should use AC3 Corrector, you can find it on www.doom9.net . It really works. Then you dont need this "sync" step.

In regards to all the requests for "where can i get Maestro?" i cant believe that many ppl have not heard of FILE SHARING PROGRAMS...i would never suggest Kazza here.... do yourself a favour and use Kazza Lite which doesnt have all the spyware if youre going to go down that route...

blackout

[tyee]

Blackout

Thanks for the reply. I'll give AC3Corrector a try.

tyee

[GoMichigan]

I am a newbie, and seem to have run into an issue. I have both Roxio and Nero installed to burn DVD's and CD's. I read that I had to install an ASPI layer before using DVD Decrypter, which I did using ForceASPI 1.7. Ever since installing this program, both Nero and Roxio do not recognize either my DVD burner or CD burner. Does anyone have any ideas on what to do? I do not see any option to remove the ASPI layer. Thanks.

[Blackout]

GoM,

i suggest you start a new topic for questions such as this. This is a topic for ppl to post their authoring methods, if everyone posted every question they had about everything in here this topic will be 50 pages long.

Thanks,
Blackout

[lynnsabcs]

I am about at my wits end. I have a older slower PC (I think a 466) running Windows 98. I am using the tutorials for DVD Decoder, Infoedit and Nero. I have a Pioneer burner. The burning software that came with the Pioneer won't work either.

I've tried just using the files that DVD Decoder initially finds and also selecting all the files (in case I'm missing a needed file as suggested in one of the tutorials). I can play in my PC the finished file on the hard drive once it has been converted in Infoedit and sent to the new folder.

It will not burn in Nero as a usable disk to play on my PC, my notebook or my compatible stand-alone DVD player. I can do a DVD disk copy of an unencrypted DVD and it plays fine. There has to be a simple step I'm missing in all this. I've spent every night for weeks trying to get what should be a simple process to work based on the tutorials. My free trial of Nero runs out in 30 days. I hope somebody will feel sorry for me out there and help me figure out what is wrong before the trial runs out!!

thanks and desparate

LynnsABCs

[Blackout]

lynn,


i suggest you start a new topic for questions such as this. This is a topic for ppl to post their authoring methods, if everyone posted every question they had about everything in here this topic will be 50 pages long.

Thanks,
Blackout

[lynnsabcs]

Blackout wrote:

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>lynn,


>i suggest you start a new topic for questions such as this. This is a topic >for ppl to post their authoring methods, if everyone posted every >question they had about everything in here this topic will be 50 pages >long.

I don't understand why my question doesn't fit in this discussion topic. The topic is a Tutorial for DVD to DVDr which I am trying to do and since I carefully following the tutorials in this discussion topic and they did not work for me either the tutorials are bogus or a step is left out. Is there nobody willing and/or able here who can answer my problem?

Or am I supposed to start a new topic--My own Tutorial V 1.8 is bogus?
I've got about $450 invested in a burner and blank discs and would like to be able to use them!!

LynnsABCs

[EnemyWithin]

lynnsabcs,

Or am I supposed to start a new topic--My own Tutorial V 1.8 is bogus?
I've got about $450 invested in a burner and blank discs and would like to be able to use them!!

You are very hostile to people trying to help you. There is nothing bogus about Blackout's tutorial. Maybe you need to re-evaluate your computer setup. You mention that your system is a 486??? Did you read the system requirements for Nero?

Nero Burning ROM requires this minimum configuration:

Pentium 90, 16 MB RAM
12 MB free hard disk space
CD-R, or CD-RW, DVD-R/RW or DVD+RW drive*
Windows 95 / 98 / ME / NT 4.0 / 2000 / XP

Most modern software and hardware requires AT LEAST a Pentium or better processor. Maybe the problem here isn't the tutorial or the suggestions, but your system. Get your temper in check if you expect people to help you. It's not our problem that your $450 investment isn't working the way you would like.

[lynnsabcs]

Thanks for responding. My frustration level is evident in my prior post.

I have my computer setup listed in my computer details on this list as a 466 but it is actually a Pentium 475. I did some late nite reading of other discussion groups and see that I may need to take the spacer off the back of my DVD drive to move it from a master to a slave.

I just don't understand how it is that I can follow the tutorials and get to the last step with a playable file on the PC and the burning won't work? I also discovered in my reading that having Nero and Veritas RecordNow DX (my drive's original software) loaded together can cause problems. I'm not just sitting back and asking for somebody else to do the work and thinking. I've searched, printed off and read everything on this forum I can find.

I've tried trial and error with different settings on the burning step. Can't get anything to work other than a disk to disk copy of an unencrypted disk. That tells me the drive and low-price Prego DVD-RW media are working (I think).

Sorry about the anger thing, I just need somebody to help me figure out why I burn a disk that gives a disk error in the compatible DVD player and a disk that both PCs says is incompatible with Windows.

I guess I got horsed off because someone posted this is not a valid question for this topic. I thoght it was the last step of the tutorial. And I have also seen several 1 post topics about burning problems so I didn't see that as a workable solution.

Please help. My wife thinks I'm crazy for working on this every nite.

LynnsABCs

[lynnsabcs]

I had a discussion this afternoon with the PC tech where I work about the DVD burner being set as a master or slave with the jumperon the back of the burner and it dawned on me that I have 2 hard drives on my PC and the DVD burner is daisy chained to them as the last drive.

He suggested I run a straight cable from the mother board to the DVD burner to see if that doesn't take care of my problem and set the jumper as "cable connect" I think he said.

Does this sound reasonable?

LynnsABCs

[lynnsabcs]

I checked my Pioneer DVD Drive hookup last nite and was wrong. I have it straight connected (cable enabled) to the mother board although the jumper on the back of the drive was set as master. I reset the jumper to cable enabled hoping that would fix my burning problem.

I started from step one of the tutorial of a 1 layer DVD and went all the way to end and tried to burn it. Of course, it still gives a disk error in the DVD player and is unrecognized in the PC.

I bought my Pioneer burner from a computer dealer on ebay. Is there any chance it is a european or asian spec drive and not US and that is my problem (although it will do a disk to disk copy of a DVD)?

LynnsABCs

[EnemyWithin]

If the DVD-R is the only device on the channel then it should be set to master. Cable select will work if you have a cable that supports it. Master will work with any type of cable, so I would suggest using it.

If you can do DVD to DVD-R copy, then the burner and software are working fine. The problem is somewhere in your copying process. If you are following the tutorials and still can't get it to work, then you are probably performing a step incorrectly and can't see the mistake. At this point (after multiple attempts), you are probably conditioned to do some steps without even thinking about it. It is probably one of these steps that you have programmed yourself to do incorrectly.

Here is what I would do:

1). Go thru the process that isn't working for you and write down each step (on the computer so you can send it). And I mean EACH step exactly as you are doing. Go to http://www.hyperionics.com and get the trial copy of Hypersnap. Then you can take screenshots as well (as as JPG at 75%).

2). Compare your notes with the tutorial and see if you are missing something or doing something incorrectly.

3). If step 2 doesnt fix the problem, then email me the notes with screenshots and I will look them over for you.