Is "NERO" screwing this SVCD up or is it just ME??

[spankey]

I ripped my dvds and encoded them with TMPGEnc. Any rate. After burning several disks and settling for decent quality, I came to realize something?

I have an ATI Radeon with video out. I watched the encoded SVCD mpeg on my tv and it was NEAR perfect. Very little if ANY noise when movement nor ghosting!!!

When I burn the disk with nero choosing "SVCD" I then get the disk and play it in my Phillips DVD player and there is ghosting and high motion noise that WAS not there at the encoded MPEG???

Should I be changing the settings in nero when I burn??? I only choose the svcd template to burn with then rip it at 8x? Should other options be tweeked???

I figure that is what is giving me so so SVCD's.... Mind you I totally understand that they are SVCD's and will NEVER be the same as the DVD itself....

Can someone offer me some NERO help or what you do?

THanks

Spankey

[TeeeRex]

By playing the SVCD on your DVD player vs original file from hard disk you are introducing more hardware dependencies - ie your problem may not be Nero at all but could be your DVD player and/or connection to your TV (or could even be the TV itself but this is unlikely if it OK with everything else).

I suggest slow down the burn speed (just as a test) to 4x, check all your SCART leads into the back of your TV (make sure they are decent quality ones) and make sure that you are using at least S-Video or RGB connections - composite will be 'OK' but its not the best and may be causing the ghost like appearance.

If it's still 'sub standard' then play the actual SVCD (from CDROM) in your PC - if it's fine (same as the original file on the HD) then it must be your DVD player that's the problem or leads that connect the two. Try the SVCD in another player / another set of leads just to confirm this ...

Good Luck..

TeeeRex

[spankey]

TeeRex-

I was thinking the same thing. Then I tried to watch it though my tv out and it was totally fine. The only real ghosting was at the begining of the movie when it shows actors names and such. None after that at all! No motion noise either.

WHen I burn it I then get all this? Could it be my disks??? They are a cheaper grade?? Maybee its that as well?

I was just curious if anyone experiences this same issue with nero as I do??

My DVD player plays DVDs just fine so conections are not an issue I wouldn't think here? I am stummped? I will email NERO and see if I can get anything out of them??? HA


Thanks for your time today!

Spankey

[TeeeRex]

What is the MPG spec of the actual file - is it a standard SVCD or is it non-standard. Software players are generally far superior for playing non-standard mpg's while hardware devices may have trouble. I really don't believe it's nero - at the end of the day nero is writing a digital stream or 1's and 0's - if the playback is jumpy then it may be nero (having trouble even 'reading' the CD - but if you say it now has ghosting and motion artifacts but reads it fine - then it must come from another source ...

Errrrrr..?

[Nelson37]

Play the CDROM in the PC to test burner and Nero. If CD is ok in PC, then its the DVD player or connections or its non-standard and the player won't handle it. If the CD in the PC plays bad then its your burner or media. Do this test using TV-out, of course.

I always remux with bbMpeg and image with VCDimager to SVCD settings. If you burn the bin/cue with Nero, then there are NO program settings involved other than speed, which you should try lowering as suggested above.

[spankey]

Guys-

Thanks again for your info. On the issue of standard, I burn them as standard . The check is checked every time I load the svcd template to burn in nero. As I stated, I do not change any of the nero settings when I load the svcd. So that is always checked because I leave it alone....

I will try the pc and try it with the tv out (the disk that is) and see if it still has it there.....


I will post back...

All I was pretty much getting at is, should I be changing anything in the nero settings besides speed to burn svcds or vcds??? Like ISO levels checkmarks and such???

Thanks again...

[spankey]

Well guys you were right! Its my DVD player? It doesn't make any sense??

Its only a year old and it plays dvds just fine??? Its a Phillips 751 model?

I loaded the svcd in my pioneer dvd player in my pc and played it out to my tv and it was crystal clear! No noise nor ghosting?

Now get this...

When I load a VCD it shows up on my tv before loading as a vcd but when I load a svcd burned as Mpeg2 it shows on the tv SVCD MPEG3????

What is MPEG 3 and I thought a standard svcd was mpeg2? Could that be the issue right there? THe dvd player is expecting mpeg 3 and getting mpeg 2???

Thanks

Spankey

[TeeeRex]

There is no such thing as MPEG3 (video). Not to be confused with MP3 which is an audio format. MPEG4 is the next video MPEG format after 2 - I guess they missed out 3 to avoid the confusion ... To date - no hardware standalone player plays MPEG4 - so I think your player is either totally confused or your SVCD may have MP3 encode audio (again not standard as this should be MP2) and your player is displaying that ??