DVDx: Is it all it's cracked up to be??? PLEASE READ

[valzuniga]

I like this programs' simplicity, the quality, and the speed. I just keep getting audiosync problems, that are pretty noticeable. I'll try the 1.2 version I guess. The dvd's im trying to convert are NTSC, so I hope the 1.2 version has fixed this error.

[orbit7]

The one almighty question about dvdx

is svcd1.0 - vbr or cbr????

[sullen]

DVDx 1.2 is CBR. VBR is one of the goals for future releases. I am currently testing the actual encoding part today and tomorrow like other people here. You can make your VCDs Xes in a sense because you can play with the output bit rates and audio rates. The suggest 1500 and 2376 respectively. I am working with the apartment explosion scene in Fight Club right now in TMPGEnc and will try DVDx later. Explosions are usually the worst rendered scenes I run into in encoding so I figured that would be a good test. So are bright cartoons like the Clerks Uncensored DVD. Hope that helps anyone.

[sullen]

Oh I forgot. Part of the bug problems some people are having may have to do with the fact that the program reads the DVD in tiny little parts as it encodes to avoid putting anything on the hard drive to speak of. Sefy mentioned this in his guide I figure he is right about the program shortening the life span of the DVD-Rom. Sort of like turning a light on and off a whole bunch of times in a row. That broken down reading might be a problem. I really have no background in computers or anything, it just sounded childishly logical when I thought of it.

[orbit7]

I cant see how cbr could come close over vbr 3 pass unless you set it at the highest bitrate possible... wouldnt that take heaps of space?? And yes, I agree this could cause quite a bit of wear and tear on the rom as posted previously. I dislike the concept of bit by bit reading.

[JJamez]

Interesting point about the DVD-Rom life...

Anyway, I did some testing, and even though I like the DVDx program and its simplicity, the quality is not even close to TMpeg.

I was going to post some screenshot comparisons, but its not really worth it - the quality difference was enormous. To my eyes my 1200Kb/s TMpeg CBR file looked better than my 1800Kb/s DVDx file. Really, I think DVDx only becomes watchable at somewhere around ~1800Kb/s.

On average, final file sizes were a bit smaller with DVDx, but not significantly so.

If the quality issues can be improved, it will be a great little program.

[orbit7]

I agree. QUality needs work ok for newbies i guess or persons not fussed on blocks and sharpness. tmpeg is better, but I still have to say that dvd2svcd is proving itself as a great little proggy. furthermore I like the 3 pass vbr on cinemacraft.

[midiman]

I tried version 1.2 last night. I tried to convert 'The Return of Spinal Tap' When I tried to select the input IFO I get 'auth.dll: Cant athenticate drive'. In the audio section it the only otion comes up as '???(AC3 2ch)'. I have tried extrating the files first using CladDVD 2.00 and doing it direct from the DVD but get the same message. It seems to let me encode to MPEG ok but audio is in mono. Any body experiaced this or know what might be the problem ?

My view on Video quality is its not bad for what it does but TEMPEnc is definitly better. Early days shows lots of promise

[hanibal02]

I ripped Bicentenial Man last night setting DVDx to the highest quality standards and it wasn't as good as TMP. Quality is very important to me and the time needed to run TMP is well worth it.

The program def shows promise though. I imagine they will have it mastered here shortly.

[klay51]

i dunno what the heck ur watchin u crackheads(jk). quality was amazing for me. Tmpg shouldnt be compared to this tho. They are alot diferent. need a buncha other crap with that but dvdx all u need is dvdx

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: klay51 on 2001-08-17 14:07:38 ]</font>

[xzarkad]

I have tried DVDx today.

After reading this posts, I can just come to one conclusion:
The persons who think that DVDx has better quality than TMPGEnc, did probably never use any of the parameters of TMPGEnc to get better quality.
DVDx has problems with I frames. It cannot detect a scene change very good. It messes up the subtitles. Audio quality has to be improved.
DVDx is defenately NOT faster than TMPGEnc. I tried 5 minutes of the movie "event horizon". In best quality DVDx calculated 5% more time for the clip.
I know that this program has to be improved, and that many new releases will follow. I will for certain keep an eye on this program in the future.
But at this point TMPGEnc is much, much better.(and also improving every month)

[maxqa]

I tried DVDx as well today and post similar comments to xzarkad.

Its a good idea in priciple but to get the best quality you really need a little more control of the programs you are using. Also DVDx crashed half way through for me. I'll keep a lookout though for when VBR is introduced.

Anyway, after all what is so difficult about Smart Ripper --> DVD2AVI --> TMPGEnc.

This has never failed to give me excellent results and there seemed to be little if any speed improvement with DVDx.

[alfa1234]

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On 2001-08-17 14:06:53, klay51 wrote:
i dunno what the heck ur watchin u crackheads(jk). quality was amazing for me. Tmpg shouldnt be compared to this tho. They are alot diferent. need a buncha other crap with that but dvdx all u need is dvdx

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: klay51 on 2001-08-17 14:07:38 ]</font>
</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></TD></TR><TR><TD><HR size=1 color=black></TD></TR></TABLE>Hi Klay,

Your command of English is amazing to the extent that it is unintelligible to a simple guy like myself who tries to understand your gibberish, or is it a gimmick?Come on, grow up. Regards

[p0rn0sauRus]

i have DVDx...it gave me a warning right when my encording hit 1.6 megs "Sample not found or audio decoding error...."

can someone tell me what i did wrong?

[t1955feb]

Great Tool ik have made svcd that works on my philips 711
fast forward all is working perfect and the picture is very good dont need flask and Tmenc anymore.

[yellow1]

Nice idea. but the audio is completely out of synch when I try VCD encoding with detect 24fps/force 24fps (only combination that works without errors popping up)...

[mh2360]

I used it for the first time today, I was impressed by the colour definition, very close to the original, better than Flask/Panasonic. But Flask/Panasonic beats it on detail - by that I mean - lack of 'blockiness'. Not a bad App if you're short on disk space.

[Sefy]

I've used DVDx on several DVD's now, and like some i'm very impressed with it, it defenetly makes life easier as a All-In-One program, but like others i've also had problems with some DVD's with Audio, basicly it's a great program and it's just starting so it will most defenetly improve, and it's a great alternative on the movies that it does work, and it gives us another option for ripping, so i'd say give the developer two thumbs up! great work and keep it up!!!

[Macros746]

Hello all,
Well, I've tryed DVDx and I was really impressed with the quality and, more importantly, the idea behind it. Unfortunately, I have not been able to get through an entire movie with it. It poops out anywhere from 25 to 30 percent of the way through the movie. I get a VXD error and the BSOD. It is sad really, I would use it ALL THE TIME if it really worked. Anyone have any suggestions? I have already tried the open DVD root thing.


Macros746

[Sefy]

I don't know why it crashed on you, I do know it did manage to do a few DVD's I let it rip, and the quality was impressive, but although at times it didn't work, it never gave me BSOD.

[Mars-L]

Also tried it today to create a XVCD (VCD settings with videorate of 1400) of the DVD for Familyman. Personally I am very happy with it and IMHO in it's highest settings (all on "best&quot for VCD it gives less blockiness as TMPGenc does for me (using the standard template combined with aslo the 1400 video bitrate).
I don't know for SVCD because I never tried that, but IMHO as long as DVDx doesn't support VBR it ain't interesting for SVCD.

BTW because I want subtitles I normally use FlasK --> AviSynth ---> TMPGenc which often is hard to start up without TMPGenc freezing (happens here at least once everytime after starting "FlasK this" and having start up TMPGenc.

Greetz
Mars-L