Lord of The Rings..........DVD to DVD-R

[Raider]

Having just ripped LOTR to my hdd, I've taken out what I thought was necessary in IfoEdit, but the remaining vobs still come out at around 6 gigs. What is the best option now that I have theses vobs of this size,??

1) Convert to 2 discs in ifoedit,

2)Encode the vobs I have, if so, how and what encoder to use??

3) Re-rip with Smartripper, produce an m2v and ac3 file and encode with Rempeg, without the menus and author in Spruce up.

Your advice and experiences with this film to dvdr much appreciated

Thanks

Raider.

[BerrantRyke]

I backed up my copy like this:

SmartRipper the movie VOBs to my hard drive

DVD2AVI -makes a .d2v and a .wav

TMPGnc - muxed the files from DVD2AVI into a MPEG2 (3.92GB)

Used spruceUp to author my DVD

Nero to burn the bugger

[dwisniski]

You should be able to retain the original menu's and not have to re-author the whole disc if you use IfoEdit and transcode with ReMpeg, I think Doom 9 has a guide how to do it, just set the sample rate low enough to encode the whole movie.

[chronic3010]

What i did was i ripped movie lord of the rings then using smart ripper then .... I ripped out all the menus leaving only the movie as if i were making a dvd-r without menus. After that I split the movies using the 2 dvd method by doom.

[Raider]

thanks ppl,
going to go for the option of editing in Ifoedit, and then encode with ReMpeg.

cheers for the replies

Raider

[fand]

ReMpeg settings I used:

avg bitrate: 2910 k/sec
(this makes it VBR)check limit bitrate: 4690

cheers,

kyle

[smearbrick1]

Ripped with Smart Ripper... Split over DVD-R's with ifoedit. No problems.

[Raider]

yep, gotta be honest, couldn't be bothered to wait for ReMpeg, so split to two dvd-r's with Ifoedit, and works a treat

thanks for your input ppl

cheers

Raider

[fand]

just fyi, this release of LoR was missing footage seen in the movie theatres. They plan on releasing a 4-box set in November. It was just a marketing ploy.

k.

[cchitson11]

just fyi, this release of LoR was missing footage seen in the movie theatres. They plan on releasing a 4-box set in November. It was just a marketing ploy.

k.

I will agree with you that this is a marketing ploy but, I'm fairly certain it was the same as the theater release. I've had 3 different versions (centropy bootleg, dvd screener, and retail dvd) and they all appear to be the same. I have heard the version coming this november has 35-45 mins of never seen footage added back into the movie. I will go buy the 4 disk set but i refused to allow myself to be tricked into puchasing[dvd-r ] this one.

[eatin sammiches for lunch]

You should be able to retain the original menu's and not have to re-author the whole disc if you use IfoEdit and transcode with ReMpeg, I think Doom 9 has a guide how to do it, just set the sample rate low enough to encode the whole movie.

TRUE..BUT the quality wont be as good with Rempeg compared to multipasses vbr settings of tmpg or (my choice) CCE..and CCE is fast

[Faceman101]

just fyi, this release of LoR was missing footage seen in the movie theatres. They plan on releasing a 4-box set in November. It was just a marketing ploy.

The LOTR retail DVD that is out now is the theater version, nothing was left out. The next release will have 20 odd or so minutes extra.

@BerrantRyke

What do you mean you muxed the files from DVD2AVI into a MPEG2? You had yourself a D2V and a WAV and isn't the movie itself larger than 3.92gigs?

[thxkid]

Offical statement from the director is that it will have 30 minutes of cut footage from what was seen in the theater, I won't buy this 2 disc set either, like I got duped with Pearl Harbor, I can wait until november, my DVD rip will be good enough until then.

[mol3000]

i am getting the new lor tomorrow from a friend and was lookin to try some tricks to put it on a 4.7..... but i just bought a 9.4 dvd-r and wanted to no if it would fit that whole disk on there ..... even thouth i have to turn it over???

[Raider]

TRUE..BUT the quality wont be as good with Rempeg compared to multipasses vbr settings of tmpg or (my choice) CCE..and CCE is fast

I've got CCE 2.5 sp (and I know it whizzes along), and used to use it for vdc/svcd, and I've read the tutorial on doom's site to make dvd, but it seems very complicated and a very long tut.

Once you've got the vobs, and taken out what you want in Ifoedit, is there a way of getting the resulting vobs into CCE, encoding and then putting back into Ifoedit???

Thanks

Raider

[fand]

TRUE..BUT the quality wont be as good with Rempeg compared to multipasses vbr settings of tmpg or (my choice) CCE..and CCE is fast

ReMpeg allows VBR (I've had it to up to like 19 passes on some transcodings). ReMpeg takes like 5 hours to do a transcode, which really isn't that bad. Rempeg is very simple and effective. it takes me a total of 30 seconds (once the m2v file is read in) to configure rempeg and i'm good to go. I don't want to say one is better than another, I just wanted to mention the fact that rempeg does do VBR (you need to check 'limit bitrate' to enable it).

k.

[jugernaut]

Use the split, you will save a lot of time, and franky, that movie is worth the purchase of DVD-R (But not as i said previously, the 50 USD they are trying to charge us for it in a certain place in south America. I have in preorder the 5-disc version, this is why i not order it from the us)

[Raider]

ReMpeg takes like 5 hours to do a transcode, which really isn't that bad.

I've used ReMpeg on a couple of movies, one being 1.5 hours long and the other being 2 hours, and Rempeg took between 18-22 hours to encode. How do you get yours to encode so quick. I've got a fast system aswell.???

Athlon 2000xp+
512 ddram
7200 rpm hdd

If I could encode in 5 hours, I wouldn't mind using ReMpeg.....whats the secret

cheers

Raider

[Faceman101]

i am getting the new lor tomorrow from a friend and was lookin to try some tricks to put it on a 4.7..... but i just bought a 9.4 dvd-r and wanted to no if it would fit that whole disk on there ..... even thouth i have to turn it over???

where did you buy a 9.4 DVD-R?

[eatin sammiches for lunch]

TRUE..BUT the quality wont be as good with Rempeg compared to multipasses vbr settings of tmpg or (my choice) CCE..and CCE is fast

ReMpeg allows VBR (I've had it to up to like 19 passes on some transcodings). ReMpeg takes like 5 hours to do a transcode, which really isn't that bad. Rempeg is very simple and effective. it takes me a total of 30 seconds (once the m2v file is read in) to configure rempeg and i'm good to go. I don't want to say one is better than another, I just wanted to mention the fact that rempeg does do VBR (you need to check 'limit bitrate' to enable it).

k.

19 passes "WHY"


come on now rempeg is a good simple encoder but it cant be compared to CCE

if u are using REMPEG to re encode dvd that means u must not have CCE or u just dont know how to use it.

i used rempeg for the awhile until i got the hang of CCE

CCE WILL GIVE U BETTER RESULTS and its a tested fact its faster!!!

yo Fand check out this post on doom's forum, dvd encoding section:



http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=29906

[eatin sammiches for lunch]

TRUE..BUT the quality wont be as good with Rempeg compared to multipasses vbr settings of tmpg or (my choice) CCE..and CCE is fast

I've got CCE 2.5 sp (and I know it whizzes along), and used to use it for vdc/svcd, and I've read the tutorial on doom's site to make dvd, but it seems very complicated and a very long tut.

Once you've got the vobs, and taken out what you want in Ifoedit, is there a way of getting the resulting vobs into CCE, encoding and then putting back into Ifoedit???

Thanks

Raider

it does seem a lil bit complicated if u have never touched those progams mentioned on the "getting the best out of CCE" article

but this is what i recommend and what i would do before i got the hang of it.

follow that advanced cce (robshot method) guide:

http://www.doom9.org/mpg/cce-advanced.htm

ok when u have your movie vobs follow the guide to split the audio/video
to get your d2v and audio files set up your d2v file with avisynth or VFAPi as described in the guide. now u will be able to load it up into CCE ..

since u are new to the cce method i would suggest u configure CCE up until the GOP setting (dont go past the GOP settings) but make sure to set it to do a multipass of 2 (or more if u want) and set your min, max and avg bitrates.

after encoding just author your new video and audio back together...but u cant remux it back with ifoedit...bummer..yea i know


leaving out everything after the GOP process of the guide isnt that critical but will increase quality if the whole guide is followed.....i just recommend u leave it out until u get the hang of CCE dvd compliant encoding before u attack the robshot method.

thats just my opinion.......


if u have any questions u can email me back at jrose@pwav.com

[Raider]

@eatin sammiches for lunch

thanx m8, I will give it a whirl, can I still keep the title screens, where you choose subtitles, languages etc...., or will I lose them and have to author with something else???

I'd really like to keep the dvd as original as possible, thats why I like the ifoedit option,


and I still don't understand how FAND gets ReMpeg down to 5 hours, please advise m8,

thanks

Raider.

[krazyscotsman]

I just used smart ripper to rip half of the chapters into m2v and ac3. Then I used DVD Maestro to build vobs. Finally, I burned with nero. Then repeated for the second half of the chapters. Yes it takes to dvds but it avoids all the re-encoding and the bitrate stays the same.
Scotsman

[Faceman101]

This thread contains 80% good and 20% crap.

9.4 DVD-Rs? Muxing a D2V and a WAV to make a 3.97gig movie file?

Other than that, good info.