Anyone know what codec this file uses

[Craig Tucker]

I just downloaded a file called Men In Black 2.avi from Imesh.

I want to convert it to VCD mpeg1

I cannot get anything to open or play it, I have the nimo codec pack installed so I have the divx mpeg 4 fast and low motion, 4.12 and 5.01 codecs installed.

Anyone downloaded this file and got it to play.

Craig

[dazsafc]

could be a .mov file. You need something else to use for them. Can`t remember what.
Have yer tryed downloading a DivX player.

[Craig Tucker]

it has the extension avi not mov. I will try downloading a dedicated divx player.

Craig

[KingJohn]

I just downloaded a file called Men In Black 2.avi from Imesh.
I want to convert it to VCD mpeg1
I cannot get anything to open or play it, I have the nimo codec pack installed so I have the divx mpeg 4 fast and low motion, 4.12 and 5.01 codecs installed.
Anyone downloaded this file and got it to play.
Craig

You need the Fake codec for the Fake movies then ?

Men In Black II
1 - 156,832 KB
2 - 56,790 KB

Men In Black II
213,429 KB

[BJ_M]

xvid ?

[Craig Tucker]

Kingjohn

This is named Men In Black 2 (not II) and it is 671,860kB.

I dont download movies much less than 600kB

I'm not stupid I know a 56MB file isnt going to be a full length film. Not worth watching anyway.

Craig

[Craig Tucker]

xvid ?

I have the Xvid Mpeg 4 codec installed.

Craig

[KingJohn]

Those file sizes are correct "Stupid" they are verified, just because part 2 is small does not mean anything.

I sometimes download 800Mb part 1, and 10Mb part 2, its a trick we use when sharing files to certain people

Xvid is just another oddball codec like SMR, hardly used by anyone. Its just another ISO MPEG-4 rip off marketed as an open source project, from the discontinued DivX Project Mayo.

If you have downloaded MIB2 using this codec, then chances are someone has already downloaded the DivX version and converted it just for a laugh

The file sizes I posted are the original MIB2 downloads, it is easy to download one of those and make a new file with them.

Installing oddball codec's can result in problems with conversions both in Vdub and TMPGEnc

[PimpInDaHouse]

The movie should be in bin/cue formate or mpg that is how these movies are released. Someone converted the movie to a different formate and it is going to look like sh*t so I would say to redownload in its original format I don't understand why people change these movies to DivX it's pointless plus there hasn't been a good release of this movie anyways they all look like crap. And the movie sucks too not the quality but the movie.

[KingJohn]

Ah shucks, the bug in the electrical system is good
Probably the same bug in the DivX

[Compound]

Xvid is just another oddball codec like SMR, hardly used by anyone. Its just another ISO MPEG-4 rip off marketed as an open source project, from the discontinued DivX Project Mayo
many of the new dvd rips are being released using xvid including ice age and we were soldiers

[C-Dub]

you need KScodecs

[Craig Tucker]

Those file sizes are correct "Stupid" they are verified, just because part 2 is small does not mean anything.

I sometimes download 800Mb part 1, and 10Mb part 2, its a trick we use when sharing files to certain people

Xvid is just another oddball codec like SMR, hardly used by anyone. Its just another ISO MPEG-4 rip off marketed as an open source project, from the discontinued DivX Project Mayo.

If you have downloaded MIB2 using this codec, then chances are someone has already downloaded the DivX version and converted it just for a laugh

The file sizes I posted are the original MIB2 downloads, it is easy to download one of those and make a new file with them.

Installing oddball codec's can result in problems with conversions both in Vdub and TMPGEnc

Just because part 2 is small does'nt mean anything, well add part 1 and 2 together and you still only get just over 200mb, what does this mean. shit quality?.

You were eluding to the fact that the file I had downloaded was fake, hence the quip about the fake codec. I could tell a file was fake if it were just a few mb but 671mb seemed reasonable to me.

Sorry if this does'nt make much sence but I have been out on the piss.

Craig

[banjazzer]

Its just another ISO MPEG-4 rip off marketed as an open source project

Isn't that a contradiction in terms? I'm no particular fan of Xvid, but I do know it equals DivX 5 Pro in quality, and no money is expected to change hands in order to use it! 8)

[KingJohn]

Exactly how many MPEG-4 rip offs do we need ?, its nowhere near the quality of DivX 5.01 Professional. It carried on after DivX 4.8 not even as good as 3.11 alpha or even 3.12

As for free, so was the previous versions of DivX 5, then when everyone has BETA tested it for them, they move it from open source and start charging.

Who said Ice age was released with this codec ? What rubbish, Ice age has been out a very long time now and originally a cam with DivX 3.11 alpha. If its out there today with Xvid, then is simply another conversion.

Maybe I should convert the latest download to a "KingJohn codec"

KJ The Sum of All Fears (1of1).oddball

Just because the file is 600Mb means nothing, everyone is sharing fake files, its usually the same one renamed with a slight edit of the first 300 frames, to fool the crc check. Even DVD rips can be as small as 200K

There are plenty of Xvid fakes, I pointed out that the original MIB2 files were those, just in-case you had downloaded a fake. In fact MIB2 converted to any other codec, could also me called a fake, if the original is simply a conversion of another.

[banjazzer]

Exactly how many MPEG-4 rip offs do we need ?, its nowhere near the quality of DivX 5.01 Professional. It carried on after DivX 4.8 not even as good as 3.11 alpha or even 3.12

I use DivX 5.02 Pro extensively, and I know the kind of quality it will produce. I don't use XviD, but I have seen XviD encodes equal to the best encodes DivX 5 Pro can produce, and XviD at present does not even use b-frames. The point is, it is not a commercial product, nor will ever be. That is the whole point of it being open-source.

From the XviD site:

· What is XviD?

XviD is an ISO MPEG-4 compliant video codec. It's no product, it's an open source project which is developed and maintained by lots of people from all over the world.

· Why should I use XviD?

Well, you don't need to at all. We the developers of XviD are just ordinary people, who happen to enjoy writing code for video compression, so we have no disadvantages (financial or any other) if you choose something else than XviD...

However there are good reasons why you could like to use XviD: We believe that XviD is the best currently available MPEG-4 video codec solution and additionally XviD is free software!

[KingJohn]

The point is, it is not a commercial product, nor will ever be. That is the whole point of it being open-source.

Tell me what happend to Project Mayo then ?

[banjazzer]

I don't know. What did happen to Project Mayo?

[KingJohn]

I don't know. What did happen to Project Mayo?

Ok, I don’t mind educating you "Again"

Q: Will DivX™ overwrite other DivX codecs?
A: DivX 5.x will update all previous versions of DivX software on your computer. This includes DivX 4.x and DivX 3.11a software.

Q: Is the OpenDivX™ codec the same as the DivX™ codec?
A: Yes and no. Yes, they are both versions of DivX compression technology. The OpenDivX codec was launched as an open-source project on Project Mayo in January 2001. Today, the project continues as a collaborative, educational development effort, focusing more on improving visual quality than optimizing performance. The first new generation of the DivX codec (version 4.x) was released in July 2001. The new DivX codec is technically completely different from OpenDivX, and is built from a different codebase. It has been optimized for greater performance and visual quality and has more features than OpenDivX. It's important to note that the two codecs produce compatible formats, meaning content encoded with OpenDivX can be played back with DivX, and vice versa. The DivX codec will from now on be the version with the most new features and widest compatibility across platforms, so this is the version we recommend you use. DivX 5.x is built atop the same codebase as DivX 4.x.

Divx 4.8 = Project Mayo
Divx 5.0 = Commercial codec with digital rights management, with the hope of persuading movie companies to make Divx 5 coded disks (VCD type)

Xvid = Where 4.8 left off, how long before it also becomes a commercial product
A: When everyone has BETA tested it for them

[banjazzer]

Then it seems that what was once an open-source project mutated into a commercial concept. To assume that this must always be so is to assume everyone is a capitalist at heart, and that capitalism always will out. Cynic as I am, I just don't believe this. It seems you are criticising a product which is free because it might become not-free, whilst eulogising a product which is not free. Well, not meant to be free.

I use DivX 5 Pro because I can obtain the highest quality with it. I don't use XviD because frankly I don't know how to get the same quality as I do now with DivX. This is a shortcoming in me, not XviD. In fact, I don't know how to use it, full stop. Maybe I will make an effort to learn, particularly if XviD gets the edge on DivX. At the moment, they produce equivalent quality, so I don't have a great incentive.

[dazsafc]

Is that 600Meg Men in Black 2 new one available. If so Is the Quality Very good as I had the ones King was on about and it was terrible quality. Although my Dad was happy to watch it!!

[KingJohn]

It seems you are criticising a product which is free because it might become not-free

Not quite, it offers NOTHING we don’t already have, DivX 4.8 is as good as V5, in fact it was not long after its release that they announced the commercial V5, if I remeber it was a matter of weeks, only difference was the added digital rights management.

What we are seeing all of a sudden is many xvid movies springing up, which are conversions of other codec movies. I have seen no new movies released in this codec only conversions of existing ones, sounds like these guys are making them up in the hope they will catch on, why ? If its that good everyone will use it.

Chink chink

Print this out and tell me I was wrong in a year or so... They see money at the end of it, and what do we get ? Yet another codec exactly the same as what we already got.

Do you think they will re-invent the wheel ?

[KingJohn]

Is that 600Meg Men in Black 2 new one available. If so Is the Quality Very good as I had the ones King was on about and it was terrible quality. Although my Dad was happy to watch it!!

Sorry in the excitement I missed this there is a reel version of this out which is very good quality.

I don't know if you will find it yet though, I'm considering sharing it with this new codec I'm working on

I call it Project KingJohn, the road to wealth...

[banjazzer]

DivX 4.8 is as good as V5, in fact it was not long after its release that they announced the commercial V5, if I remeber it was a matter of weeks, only difference was the added digital rights management.

The most significant improvement in v5 Pro is the bi-directional encode capability. When this is used, for a given filesize there is a marked quality improvement, or for a given quality, you get a smaller filesize.

BTW, I am not talking of movies converted from other codecs, but from DVD.

[KingJohn]

xvid ?

XVID = DIVX (backwards)
Since DivX is now a registered trademark.

Oh yes !!

[KingJohn]

DivX 4.8 is as good as V5, in fact it was not long after its release that they announced the commercial V5, if I remeber it was a matter of weeks, only difference was the added digital rights management.

The most significant improvement in v5 Pro is the bi-directional encode capability. When this is used, for a given filesize there is a marked quality improvement, or for a given quality, you get a smaller filesize.

BTW, I am not talking of movies converted from other codecs, but from DVD.

Just DVD, what about Disney "animations" vises say... Lord of the rings ?

[banjazzer]

I only work from DVD, but I've not found anything it cannot encode. With animations you can even knock down the bitrate substantially.

[VaguelyWeird]

Craig, has your issue been resolved by the lordly dictates of KingJohn ? It is possible that your avi may be encoded in mp43 format... If this is not the source of your problems, I apologize.

Moviecodec.com
The problem is that a lot of AVI files was - doing a short period (during a beta stage of Windows Media Tools) - encoded using the MPEG-4v3. However when Microsoft released the next version of the tools MPEG-4v3 was no longer supported in AVI files. If you have an AVI file encoded using MPEG-4v3 and your version of the MPEG-4v3 codec (MPG4C32.DLL) is newer than 4.00.0.3688 you cannot play the file. However to be able to use it anyway you can do one of the following things:

Install the older version of the codec (search for it on the internet - it is NOT available on this website, as I do not have the legal right to distribute it).
Get a newer (full) release of the Windows Media Tools that includes a command line utility (vidtoasf.exe) that can convert your old MPEG4-v3 AVIs to ASFs.
For more information on these issues visit the Codec Zone:
neptune.spaceports.com/~codecs/mpeg4.htm

[KingJohn]

Craig, has your issue been resolved by the lordly dictates of KingJohn ? It is possible that your avi may be encoded in mp43 format... If this is not the source of your problems, I apologize.

Think that was solved days ago, and I am not a Lord.. I'm a King

He's not stupid you know, and has the other codec's

cannot get anything to open or play it, I have the nimo codec pack installed so I have the divx mpeg 4 fast and low motion, 4.12 and 5.01 codecs installed.

[VaguelyWeird]

You surely don't act like one, unless you're a feline.