what format is this movie? how can i find out?

[bagatur]

i have a movie, *.avi, BUT looks like it is not an avi file
divx player wouldnt open it, saying it's either corrupt or wrong
wormat;
divxinfo program would say "the file is no avi";
divxfix program would say it isnt avi either.
BUT it is a movie file since i can play it wmp and windvd.
so looks like the extention is wrong, thus there no clue as to its
movie format.
how can i find it out? what program can i use to see its properties,
like fps, bitrate and the like?

[Mr Magoo]

Hi!
Don´t know if this can help, but it´s worth a try anyway.

On this link :
http://dvd.box.sk/indexN.php3?pid=divx&prj=soft3&id=6334&rubrika=tools&tools=codecs

there´s a program called Gspot 1.0 (22Kb) that checks .avi files to determinate what codec the .avi file uses.

Plus you get the FPS, bitrate etc etc there to.


Good luck!!

[Martyn1980]

You could try a few things, right click on it and go to properties that usually tells you what the resolution, bitrate, Video compression is, or you could try Virtual Dub which does it inmore detail.

[bagatur]

rightclick/properties doesnt show me ANY properties, nothing, no fps.
length,resolution and so on...
and virtual dub doesnt open this file either...
and that proggy, gspot, says that the file is not avi file, which i
already know...
to rephrase my question - i do know that it's a movie file,
i just wanna know its format... how can i do that?

[CryptKeeper]

what's the error you get in virtualdub?

if it says

Mpeg pack synchronization error

might be an mpeg-2 file

[Martyn1980]

have you tried renaming the file extension to every possible movie file out there like .mov .asf .mpg .mpv.m2v etc, if media player plays it then, you must have the codec for it installed, im inclined to agree with cryptkeeper that it might be a mpeg2 file as thats the only movie file i can think of that Virtual Dub wont take that WMP will, apart from asf but thats only in newer versions of Virtual Dub.

Do you have Power DVD, if not try to get it, if you have open it in that and go to configuration and if its mpeg1 or mpeg2 it will tell you, even the resolution, bitrate and the sound, it will also play asf, all avi files albeit with the screen size messed up on some, if none of these things works the im stumped.

[bagatur]

Virtual dub says that it cannpt determine the type of the file
as for other formats - that's what i was thinking about - trying
to rename it and see how it behaves
only problem is that wmp opens it anyway
if it was one of mpegs(the svcd one) - i should be able to make a bin
file from it with vcdeasy, right? but it didnt work either...
i am really stuck here

[bagatur]

and i got trial powerdvd from their website,
and in configuration there is no mentioning of
file info
do i need the full version?

[bagatur]

is there a program that gives you detailed info on ANY movie file,
not like those gspot or avinfo that give info about avi files only?

[bagatur]

and btw when i try to encode it in tmpgenc,
it would say "the error occurred when ACM was initialized".
what is this ACM?
also, in "source range" there the sound track thingy looks very
fizzy, not like usual sound track.
any ideas?

[checur]

I have the exact same problem.

The only way I am able to get any of the file properties is by opening the file with WMP and going to the property page there. The only thing that tells me is that the Audio codec is Morgan Stream Switcher and that it uses a Divx video codec...no other details. I'm pretty sure it's an MP-2 file but haven't figured out how to convert it with TMPGEnc as of yet.

If anyone has a solution I'd love to hear it.

[leejarman]

I'm having the same problem with a copy of Vampire Hunter D:Bloodlust.
I've tried all the same programs and I'm stumped.
I've tried doing a straight conversion with TMPenc which starts out fine, it gets to about 50% then goes clunk.

It's doing my head in now!




Lee

[CryptKeeper]

what is this ACM?
any ideas?

Microsoft Audio Compression Manager (ACM)

[bagatur]

leejarman, how do u get tmpenc to start even encoding it?
mine wont even start, giving an error about starting up ACM
module...
did u rename it to mpg or mpeg( which one is mpeg2 thouhg?) and
then opened it with tmpgenc?

[leejarman]

didn't bother with the wizard.
just go straight to the Video and audio source, select video and the audio will atomatically select the same file

lee

[CryptKeeper]

load the avi into vdub
and save the wav as No Compression PCM to a new file

Audio -> Full Processing Mode
Audio -> Compression -> click on No Compression (PCM)
File -> Save wav

then use that audio to work with in tmpgenc

[leejarman]

Vdub won't accept the file

[CryptKeeper]

btw
cool edit pro 2.0
opens avi files

you'll have to use
Multi-track edit
Insert -> Audio from Video file

if it opens the file
you can then save the audio to PCM
and then use that audio in tmpgenc

[bagatur]

please, guys, read all the post in this thread...
virtual dub wont even open the file saying something about wrong format.
Leejarman, the problem with my file is that right when it starts
encoding it it gives that ACM error, although I can play around with in
the boundaries part... something is wrong with the audio

so, it is not an avi file(though it has avi extention) because no avi related
soft recognizes it as one( gspot, avifix, avinfo, divx player, avi fix),
and it is not an mpeg file either - i used mpeg properties proggy on it and
it said it's wrong format, also if i change the extention to mpg and try
opening it in windvd - it's all messed up there, although avi extention works fine...

so any other suggestins what format it can be? it's pretty good quality,
high resolution, size is 700Mb. what format is capable of that? except avi and mpeg2.

[CryptKeeper]

load it into a text editor and see if inside it you can find any reference to a file format

on the first line
for svcd it's: RIFF CDXA
for avi it's: RIFF AVI

and for other formats
don't know cuz i haven't any others on my drive right now

[gll99]

It is probably an Mpeg2 but it could be in VOB format.

The clue is that windvd will play it and virtualdub always gives this standard message "Mpeg pack synchronization error" when it tries to open an Mpeg2 file.

[bagatur]

gl99, it doesn give that mpeg synchronization error,
it says something about wrong format
it is not mpeg since mpegproperties software didnt
recoznize it as one

[CryptKeeper]

does windvd support asf?

[CryptKeeper]

yep windvd supports asf

says so in the datasheet

[bagatur]

talking to yourself, cryptkeeper?

u think it can be asf?

it's not mpeg, because if i change extention to mpg or mpeg and open
it with windvd - windvd behaves really strange, while in original avi
extention it just works fine.

asf format capable of dvdrip quality for the same sizes?

[CryptKeeper]

it mgiht be

load the avi again in vdub and read the error it gives you exactly

it might mention that it doesn't support asf in the verson you're using of vdub

i've never seen asf to be anything but blocky
and not worth converting

[bagatur]

ok, keeper
here is exactly what vdub says when i try to open the file( not when i am
trying to do anything with it, but right away as soon as i double click
it in file/open video file):
"cannon determine the type of "C:\movie\the_others.avi""

could be asf u think? asf is microsoft format, right?
then shouldnt wmp give all the info about it?

[CryptKeeper]

this is what wmp supports

Format File name extensions
CD Audio Track .cda
Intel Video Technology .ivf
Macintosh AIFF Resource .aif, .aifc, .aiff
Windows Media .asf, .asx, .wax, .wma, .wmv, .wvx, .wmp, .wmx
Windows formats .avi, .wav
Windows Media Player skins .wmz, .wms
Moving Picture Experts Group (MPEG) .mpeg, .mpg, .m1v, .mp2, .mp3, .mpa, .mpe, .mpv2, .m3u
Musical Instrument Digital Interface (MIDI) .mid, .midi, .rmi
UNIX .au, .snd

and windvd supports
mpeg, asf, avi and mp3 files

you said mpeg plays weird in windvd and we know it's not an avi

so last thing it could be is asf

which vdub version are you using?
and i'll find an asf file to see if i get the same error in vdub

[CryptKeeper]

yeah wmp should give you the info about it

i got an asf and vdub 1.4.7 or 1.4.10
claims not supported cuz of microsoft holding the patent to asf format

now you're driving me crazy

[bagatur]

i just got that lsx mpeg encoder and this one wont even open the file,
saying it is either unsupported format or corrupted
tmpgenc at least opens the file...

damn, an unidentifiable movie that can be watched in wmp and windvd,
what the hell is that?

and vdub i use is 1.4.10