Premiere and .mp2 format?

[nittany]

I am passing this question to the forum from a friend of mine:

He is trying to edit a .mp2 file captured from ATI MMC7.6. He cannot import it into Premiere (open and import does not see the file). I told him to try renaming the file to .mpg and then import it, but this did not work. He sees the file now in the dialog, but he gets some kind of warning or error message. Is there a way for him to edit the .mp2 file in Premiere or does he have to recapture in a different format (or convert it to a different format) first? Thank you for any answers.

[DeafBug]

If you do a search on ATI MMC here, you will find some information about the way MMC exports its VCR file to MP2. I did it before but it didn't solve my problem as it did for others. What I did that is really works and is what I want. MMC VCR file is not a real MPEG4 (DVD format) file. It is close but not there. I want a real DVD format file captured.

Since I have large hard drives, I have three partitions on the C drive, one is my normal everyday use, one is dedicated for my work, and one is dedicated for capture and burning. With the capture and burning partition, it has hardly any process running in the background and only the needed software installed. I can capture videos in DVD format without a single frame dropped. Same goes for CD burning. Also I do my video editing there since it takes a lot of memory and process time if I open a large file to edit.

So all my captures are saved as mpg files instead of VCR files. That what I do. Tell your friend that. Otherwise I have no idea how to help you.

[nittany]

Deafbug,
Thanks for the info. I have MMC, but not Premiere. I looked at MMC in regards to the formats that it can save it to. The next to best format is what he was using to save to .mp2. I tried to save the file to the "DVD" format (best format) which saves it as a .mpg file. I am assuming that this is the format that you are suggesting to use? I am not sure how large his harddrive is, so hopefully he can do that. Again, thanks for the info.

[DeafBug]

Well, with good format. It is already at the top. If you need to make the file smaller or something, you can convert the file into what you need and still get good quality. Try to make a VCD into DVD quality is next to impossible, although it can be done but the picture is not the same. I capture everything in DVD. Depending on the size, I burn the mpg file on the CD so that I still have space on hard drive. Normally my DVD mpgs are less than 650MB for home video or such. I don't capture a two hour movie.

I did use Premiere in college, right now I can't help on that. Sorry.

[DeafBug]

I found this in the readme file. I don't know if it makes any difference to you or your friend.

F) ISSUES YOU MAY ENCOUNTER

Mpeg 2 clips will not playback on your system unless you have DVD Player software installed.

[nittany]

Thanks, everyone, for your info. I went over and worked with my friend on this a little. I set him up with an AVI encoding for the TV capture. It seems like Premiere will read that in properly, though the AVI file is pretty huge. The earlier attempts that he made with using an MPEG1 capture (The DVD capture) resulted in some problems in Premiere. When the video clip was put on the timeline, it wouldn't play from the timeline properly. It seemed to be out of sync with the audio or something, really jerky, etc. Any ideas?

[OO]

for Premiere, rename the .mp2 file => .mpe
Do your editing then export it and rename again => .mp2

Bingo!

"OO"

[nittany]

OO,

Thanks for the info. Hopefully that will be the solution.

[nittany]

OO,
I sent the info to my friend about renaming the ".mp2" file to ".mpe". He replied saying that it didn't work. He said a message saying something about it being unsupported popped up. He didn't put the exact message in his email, so I will have to wait till I stop over his place this weekend to see what the detailed message is. Is it possible that he is missing some codec or something? Thanks for any additional info.

[OO]

well, let see what the error message is but I suppose that his mp2 file is not a valid one; maybe a corrupted file...... Ask him to test the .mp2 file alone first......
We are talking about Premiere6 here...

"OO"

[nittany]

OO,

Not sure about wether or not it is "valid" by Premiere's standard, but it is one of the settings in ATI MMC 7.6 (not a custom setting), and, supposedly, it will play back no problem with the ATI player.
I am pretty sure he is using Premiere 6, it MAY be Premiere 5, I will find that out as well.

Thanks for the replies.

[subclubkid]

I have no problem importing mpg2 files,but is there a way to export to antyhing other than avi. I capture at mpg2 to save time,but I lose that advantage when I use Adobe 6. Anyone know of a way around this?

[nittany]

subclubkid,

During my recent searching, I found:
http://www.adobe.com/support/techdocs/29ad2.htm

According to this, you can import MPEG-1, and MPEG-2 (requires a capture card that supports MPEG-2).

You can supposedly export to MPEG-1 and MPEG-2 by doing:
File > Export > Save for Web

How are you importing the MPEG-2? From a file, or directly from the capture card? Did you install any additional codecs or anything?

Thanks.

[kickbxn5]

MPEG2 in Premiere requires a plug-in. This is why you are getting this error message.

[nittany]

kickbxn5,

Thanks for the info. Any idea on where to get the plugin?

[subclubkid]

subclubkid,

During my recent searching, I found:
http://www.adobe.com/support/techdocs/29ad2.htm

According to this, you can import MPEG-1, and MPEG-2 (requires a capture card that supports MPEG-2).

You can supposedly export to MPEG-1 and MPEG-2 by doing:
File > Export > Save for Web

How are you importing the MPEG-2? From a file, or directly from the capture card? Did you install any additional codecs or anything?

Thanks.

I capture with my Ads Instant DVD. I use the cap wizard that it came with,because I cant get anything else to work. Anyways the wizard captures fine,but sometimes there are little things I want to edit out. I can import them into Premier6,I have all the plug ins. But I was just wondering if there was a way to export as Mpeg2.

My process now is VCR-Instant DVD(mpeg2)-Adobe-exprt to avi file-Tmpge-Ulead DVD Workshop...I know there had got to be a better way.I'll check into that export to web option tonight when I get a chance.

[nittany]

subclubkid,
Wish I could give better advice, but I now have my friend doing something similar. I have him capturing to a slightly lower resolution AVI (ATI TV Capture card), then import into Premiere, edit, take about 5 hours per half hour to export to AVI again, then encoded to vcd with TMPGEnc, then burn to CD. When I had him capture to MPEG, Adobe would import it, but when we tried to put it on timeline, the video would be okay for about 10 seconds, then it would be out of sync and corrupted (25% dropped frames may be the case based on looking at equivalent locations on the video betweent he rendered and the source). This happened for a video that was around 25 minutes. Sample videos of about a minute or so, worked fine. With the 25 minute clip, the rendered video was corrupted after only about 5-10 seconds.

If someone has any suggestions, ideas, etc. please let me know.

[nittany]

subclubkid,

I think I found it. Supposedly you can use the following plugin for Premiere to be able to output MPEG2. Here is a link:
http://members.cox.net/beyeler/bbmpeg.html

Here is more info:
http://www.rocketdownload.com/details/file/5048.htm


QUESTION FOR ANYONE:
Any help on the following previously mentioned Adobe Premiere problem:
"... When I had him capture to MPEG, Adobe would import it, but when we tried to put it on timeline, the video would be okay for about 10 seconds, then it would be out of sync and corrupted (about 25% dropped frames may be the case based on looking at equivalent locations on the video betweent he rendered and the source). This happened for a video that was around 25 minutes. Sample videos of about a minute or so, worked fine. With the 25 minute clip, the rendered video was corrupted after only about 5-10 seconds." If the source was avi, we didn't see this problem. Thanks for any info.