Way to produce good VCD capacty with Dazzle VideoCreator II?

[joeAgain------]

I have seen that my DVC2 is pretty poor at capturing in VCD mode. But I'd still like to get an hour of my VHS tape onto one disk.

Is there a way to get a full hour of my VHS tapes onto one CD with good quality, in light of DVC2's poor performance in capturing in VCD mode?

[DVWannaB]

Without knowing the capabilities of your specific capture card, here is what I do with good results. I capture using VCD setting 352x480 and set the bitrate between 3500-4000. I then re-encode with TMPGEnc using VCD template. In TMPGEnc, I use noise reduction and de-interlace filter. Or sometimes I will experiment with some of the VCD templates available in the Tools section of this site. Result are very good. You should have no problem getting 1 hour on a CD-R using this method. Actually there is a template made by Koby that will get you 90 minutes on a CD-R. Have not tried it yet.

Hope that helps a bit.

[DVWannaB]

CORRECTION: I capture at 352x240 (Although you can do 352x480, within DVD-specs)

[joeAgain------]

DVWannaB,

The problem is that this card and system does poorly on VCD capturing, but excellent on SVCD or DVD capturing.

So that is what I'm dealing with. I wish I'd known this before buying it!!

Is there Anything that can be done?
(do you really mean de-interlace?, I though interlace was the one to chose in TMPGenc---what is that anyway?)

[sterno]

What I do with my DVC2 for VCD capture is just capture as SVCD (I use a nonstandard high bitrate if I want to preserve the most quality and don't mind blowing the disk space). Then I feed it through tmpgenc to get a VCD-compliant file.

I've actually had reasonably good luck just by using SVCD, I can often fit around an hour on a CD-R80 with acceptable quality (not really any worse than the VHS source). And I don't have to take the time to reencode anything. You might try just lowering your bitrate a little to see if the quality is acceptable to you.

[joeAgain------]

Sterno,

Please tell me how you do that. Are you saying you can fit an hour of SVCD on a CD? I'm Very interested in knowing how to do that, please!

I hope to here from you soon.

thanks

[DVWannaB]

What sterno means is that you up the bitrate from 1150 to 2496 on your capture device set-up. What most have found is that a real-time capture in VCD settings, no matter how powerful your computer processor is, will not give you good video. So (1) capture at a higher bitrate (2) download TMPGEnc (3) use the guide on this site that shows how to use TMPGEnc (4) Load your captured video in TMPGEnc and use the VCD Template in TMPGEnc to re-encode your captured video to VCD compliant video. Thats it. It the long way, but I have found that currently it is the best way.

[joeAgain------]

DVWannaB,
I do all that. I like TMPGenc.

But I can't get a hour of good quality VCD onto one CD mainly because my Dazzle Video Creator II captures poor qualityVCD. I thought increasing the bitrate took up more space than a lower bitrate. Or do I have it backwards?

He got me excited when he said he can get an hour of VCD onto one disk with good quality. Are you saying uping the bitrate would do that?

Please help me do that.

[VidGuy]

joeAgain,
listen to what people are saying.....

Capture the video at a higher bitrate, then reencode it with TMPGEnc into a VCD.

For instance, I capture at highest bitrate (720 x 480, 10000 kbps), then use tmpgenc to "downsample it". Now, I go to 480 x 480 or 352 x 480, but you could downsample it to 352 x 240 and encode with MPeg1 instead of MPeg2.

If you want better quality, encode it using TMPGEnc as a CVD (a form of SVCD) at 352 x 480, with an average bitrate of about 1400 - that'll fit an hour on an 80 minute CD (that's assuming your DVD player will play an SVCD).

You can use DVD2AVI to feed it to TMPGEnc from the mpeg file.

[joeAgain------]

[quote]
"Capture the video at a higher bitrate, then reencode it with TMPGEnc into a VCD".

Capture it in VCD format or in SVCD?

[sygar2000]

Capture in SVCD and reencode.

[joeAgain------]

thanks everyone.

now I get it.

sorry for being so dense.