WinTV PVR-250 not working...

[SHS]

Thoses key will not do you any good Barnabas thoses standard audio controls for all wintv cards you know that audio button in WinTV2000 that what thoses keys are for.
I think there work on Audio record level adjustment skittelsen.
There all ready add this in "Fixed preview window to 320x240 or 640x480 (and fixed 4:3 aspect ratio for adjustable window)".

[Barnabas]

Steve,

The audio has plenty of volume on the USB version of the PVR, not anywhere near as low as your PVR samples are. I have written to Hauppauge asking about a registry key for the audio record volume, so will let you know if they tell me anything.

[Anonymous65]

Scart volume is the only one I could think will control the record volume. The PVR-250 have the same registry settings. I'll give it a try.

[Barnabas]

Scart volume is the only one I could think will control the record volume. The PVR-250 have the same registry settings. I'll give it a try.

Steve, the scart volume is set to 125 by default on the USB PRV. I changed the volumes levels via the audio buttons as SHS stated and kept refreshing the registry, but they did not change, so I suspect that SHS might be wrong, and that this *might* be the place to change the record volume.

[Anonymous65]

Yes, the scart1 volume key does work!
The range is 0-127 Decimal. The default is 114. I adjusted it to 125 for good levels.

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Hauppauge\hcwtvdlg\aud iocontrols

[SHS]

Hmm min has alway been set to 127 if I try low it I get no sound what so ever.

[Anonymous65]

Try small steps, like between 100 and 127. If you try 50, you will get no audio.

[Barnabas]

Yes, the scart1 volume key does work!
The range is 0-127 Decimal. The default is 114. I adjusted it to 125 for good levels.

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Hauppauge\hcwtvdlg\aud iocontrols

Great! I have compared the audio level on the PVR USB (which is set at 125 by default) to the 3/4 recording volume level I use when recording AVI via my CyberMail AV card and Turtle Beach Santa Cruz, and the levels seems about the same, so I would think that 125 is just about right for the audio recording levels.

[SHS]

yup that work I most drop to low

[magicmycote]

How do I set the default color control values? My connection is a little washed out, and I have to adjust contrast/brightness/hue etc every time I open WinTV2000...can I set the default color controls values via registry?

[Barnabas]

How do I set the default color control values? My connection is a little washed out, and I have to adjust contrast/brightness/hue etc every time I open WinTV2000...can I set the default color controls values via registry?

Which unit do you have, the 250 or PVR USB? The settings need to be set a little bit differently for the 250 versus the USB version.

Yes, you can set the default color controls via the registry.
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Hauppauge\hcwtvdlg\Col orControls

[magicmycote]

Ahh..sorry, I just got the PVR 250. I browsed around the color control area in the registry last night, but I was in the wrong tree branch and couldn't find the entires Thx!

[Barnabas]

For the 250, try setting your brightness to 128.

[Anonymous65]

Yes, I have found that all controls should be set close to 128 for corrrect video levels.

[magicmycote]

Hmm...sort of a prob:

I set my color controls like I wanted them via the registry (both Default and regular entries)...restarted, checked registry again (settings stuck)...but when I ran WinTV2000 the 'old' default settings kicked in. I exited the app and checked registry and the old settings were back in there (in the non default values). So the app is resetting my registry...any idea why this happens? More importantly for me, how to fix it ?


In addition, the colors I just set revert to factory defaults upon changing channels...When I launch color settings, and hit "Default" key, my custom controls are loaded, so the Default registry changes I made are sticking, just the working registry keys are changed upon launching and changing channels.

[Barnabas]

Might be set so that each channel can have it's own color setting I would guess. I only use the composite or S-Video inputs, never use RF, so can't help you much with that one.

[magicmycote]

That does not explain why exiting the program and restarting it (while on same channel) resets the colors.

[Barnabas]

So you are saying that just restarting your WinTV 2000 application resets the colors? If so are you setting the colors in the registry while WinTV 2000 is open? If so, you can't do it that way. You have to make the reg changes while WinTV 2000 is not running, and you can't open the color tab at all after that or the colors will reset.

[magicmycote]

Yes restarting the app resets colors. No, I did not have WTV2K running when I made the changes, just to make sure..I even restarted, then changed registry, restarted again and checked registry to make sure changes had been made before I ran the program.

If I open the color tab while the app is running it does not reset the colors, because upon opening the application the factory defaults are already re-applied...besides that, when I do hit the "Default" button on the color tab, it changes the colors to the ones I set up in the registry, not the factory defaults.

[Barnabas]

I bet you are running XP or win2K then? If so, you need to make those changes in administrator mode for them to stay changed.

[magicmycote]

I did that

[magicmycote]

Besides, if I tried to change the registry and were not logged in with admin priveledges, it would deny me.

[magicmycote]

This problem is very irritating It basically makes scheduling impossible because the caps come out too washed out and crappy to watch. Hauppage won't reply to my emails, ...can anyone verify that their registry settings are working?

For instance, if you've change your color settings via the registry like above, and then run WinTV and hit Color tab, are your registry settings reflected initially or not? I have to press the "Default" button to change to my registry settings...and do that for each time I change the channel, would be helpful to know (if I ever get thru to hauppage) whether that happens to anyone else..SHS, Steve? TIA

[M!chael]

Hi magicmycote,

yesterday I tried to figure out what exactly is responsible for the brightness/contrast settings that my good old WinTV board uses. I came to the conclusion that the registry values are just used by the color control dialog and might not reflect the actual values used by the capture card. I suppose that the capture card has a NVRAM where the values that the card use are stored.

The WinTV PVR 250 might behave the same way and so it might be impossible to preset the values just via registry.

From reading your story I think that the WinTV 2000 software writes the values to the NVRAM every time it is started and every time you use the color control dialog.

I could be right, I could be wrong...


M!chael
(who still owns no PVR 250, but is planning to buy one...)

[DVC2]

Nope you assume wrong the Dazzle DVC-II can't must be run thur MovieStar first.

SHS - in all respect - why do you write such nonsense ??

DVCII directly captures to fully compliant VCD, SVCD and DVD files - all with correct bitrates, packetsize and muxingrate - without any need for remuxing or reproducing through Moviestar.

You can use Moviestar 4.24 or some of the usermade capturesoftware and they will still be directly compliant.

Any of these direct captureformats will be accepted as compliant in all SVCD-software and most DVD-software. Like NERO, VCDeasy, DVD-Workshop, DVD-Moviefactory just to mention a very few.

On the other hand my testing of the pvr-250 file supplied from kittelsen - the one called pvr250-svcd.mpg - from a dvd-source - showed wrong packetsize (2024 instead of 2324) wrong muxrate (10060800 instead of 2788800) and wrong vbv-buffer (111 instead of 112) the ptsvalues were irratic with a ton of pts-mismatches which possibly would introduce synchproblems and the q-level of 10.38 max is ceartainly a bit higher than normal DVCII svcd-captures (q-level subjectivly should be as low as possible)

In all respect - the captures from the pvr-250 may look ok to the eye - but technically they are just about as wrong as they could possibly be.

And if the software and driverdeveloping from Hauppage will be anything like with the first pvr - I wouldent reccomend this to anyone.

[SHS]

And where did get thoses so called info from I take it that was with tateu cool little tool call MpegAN?.
I ref to SVCD not VCD nor DVD so what nonsense was that againe???, You should try doing a search on the Dazzle DVC2 Discussion Forums something DOA!!.
Also you should read what tateu said to me about hie tool in the DVC2 forum.
DVC2 I'am try to down the Dazzle DVC2, You and I both know that the DVC2 not perfect in fact nor is any other device out there so your point is what???.

[DVC2]

I read the DVCII forum plenty.

I thought my point was pretty clear but I dont mind repeating it.

My point was that you stated the DVCII could not make direct SVCD-compliant captures without having to run them through Moviestar.

That is simply wrong !!!!

The DVCII does directly capture to 100% fully SVCD-compliant files without the need for ANY kind of remuxing, running through Moviestar or anything else you might think of. You simply capture and burn directly with NERO or any other SVCD burningsoftware. The only thing you might have to do is split the file if you captured a file bigger than 795 mb - but that should be pretty obvious.

Besides that - I also did point out that it does the same thing for VCD and DVD.

I never said anything about the DVCII being perfect - nothing is really perfect you know - and the DVCII is not perfect either, it also has its own few small issues allthough there arent many left - but at the moment it definately seems alot more perfect than the pvr-250 by the simple fact that it actually does capture to compliant files in the 3 most used formats including SVCD. This is simply something the pvr-250 does not.

Yes - i did use tateus tool for testing the ptsvalues - and yes it is an experimental tool but it will still give you a reasonably good hint on whats going on. Besides running the file through the Womble Gop Fixer also reported some gop timecode and audiopts errors. And this was on a file that was only 1 minute long - I can only guess how it would be if it was a 2hour file.

I think the clip looked good - the chip used on the pvr-250 is ok - but if hauppage cannot create drivers/software that can actually create files with the correct specifications - the device would be almost useless.

Hauppage shure never got anything right for the first PVR - which left alot of customers hanging including myself. I just wish for the sake of the customers that Hauppage will be better with the pvr-250 but I seriously doubt it.

[magicmycote]

Hi magicmycote,

yesterday I tried to figure out what exactly is responsible for the brightness/contrast settings that my good old WinTV board uses. I came to the conclusion that the registry values are just used by the color control dialog and might not reflect the actual values used by the capture card. I suppose that the capture card has a NVRAM where the values that the card use are stored.

The WinTV PVR 250 might behave the same way and so it might be impossible to preset the values just via registry.

From reading your story I think that the WinTV 2000 software writes the values to the NVRAM every time it is started and every time you use the color control dialog.

I could be right, I could be wrong...


M!chael
(who still owns no PVR 250, but is planning to buy one...)

I was leaning towards a similar conclusion..because the registry values were 'correct', and there are no updated config files in the WinTV2K tree...I think the values are not written to the chip upon closing though (maybe future versions?)..because the settings are identical every time I start (factory defaults/chip defaults).

[SodGawd]

I have a question for you PVR-250 guys.

Since it is a TV Tuner Card for the PC with a the ability to capture the source coming in, can you use VirtualDub to cap to AVI using the Huffy Codec if you so choose?

I know that you can with the WinTV line. I was just curious since I have a DVC-II on the way and now am nervous about it's functionability. I have been following this thread with great interest. I thought about grabbing one of the PVR-250 for cap'ing but thought that the DVC-II would suffice. Now I am considering dumping the DVC-II and getting the PVR-250. (sigh) Sad, I know. I will test the DVC-II on my system and see if that will help. But, unfortunately, I have the dreaded KT133/Athlon T-Bird combo that Dazzle Products seem to scoff at.. Anywhoo, I digress..

Thanks in advance to any response.

Sod out...

[SodGawd]

dah... oops..

Sorry, SHS, I didn't see your post on another thread detailing that VD is NOT compatible with this card until now.. My bad..

Sod Out