Interlace problems with PAL DVD rips

[yesfan]

Have read all the threads I can find about interlace but cant seem to solve my problem.

I am ripping pal (25 fps) movies and whatever I try the interlace always seems to be there. Although its not as bad if I encode non interlace with tempgenc, but I can still see it when played back in a standalone. The tv used for playback is a pal one.

I have tried dvd2avi and the force film setting, but that gives me the same result as the non interlace encode.

Any advice?

[offline]

You might have to deinterlace the source first. This is easiest done via
frameserving using either virtual dub or avisynth with Donald Graft's
excellent decomb filter. After the source is deinterlaced, the encoder
can add it's own interlacing without screen artifacts for pal vcd's.

However, you must first be sure that the problem you have is infact caused by interlacing and not by field order or other issues. Often
tmpge handles interlaced sources without any problems so this is
why I'm wondering about your case... more info is needed about
what titles, what settings for DVD2AVI, settings for your encoder etc.

[yesfan]

I am ripping just the movie files with Smartripper, and frameserving with DVD2AVI. When I preview the vobs in DVD2AVI the info panel says the movie is interlaced. All settings are default. Except when I try Force Film in an attempt to get rid of the interlace.

When I try to encode I use tempengc v2.5 and just load the PAL DVD template. The only setting I change is de interlace. But even during the encode process, you can clearly see the interlace effect. Any advice on tempengc setting would be useful as I am only going by the walkthoughs on this site.

I will try your suggestion of de interlace before the encode, thanks.

[offline]

Except when I try Force Film in an attempt to get rid of the interlace.

Force Film is for NTSC, changing the 29.97fps to the original "FILM"
rate of 23.97fps on certain NTSC DVD's. It won't work with PAL and
has nothing to do with interlacing per sae UNLESS you are trying
to convert an NTSC DVD to PAL.

I don't quite follow what you are doing. Are you trying to make
cut down bitrate copies of your DVD's with a DVDR ??

If you are using Tmpeg, try loading up the video source under
project wizard -> that way it will take care of the field order which
I think is perhaps the problem in your case (although I could be
quite wrong ..) You should be able to encode what you want ->
Don't touch the interlacing function in tmpgenc and see what
happens -> leave everything default and you should get a
great picture. If you can, delete your current copy of tmpgenc
and load a new copy (just in case you have compromised the
.mcf templates)

If you are sure the problem is interlacing, then to easily
remove it install Avisynth and get MPEG2DEC.dll and Decomb.dll
so you can frameserve the following AVS file.

#copy to notepad and save as an avs file (not as a .txt file)
#load this file as the video source for Tmpeg
#load the DVD2avi wav file as the audio source
LoadPlugin("C:\MYVIDEO\MPEG2DEC.DLL")
LoadPlugin("C:\MYVIDEO\Decomb.dll")
mpeg2source("C:\MYVIDEO\DVD2AVI_DVD_RIP.D2V")
ConvertToYUY2
FieldDeinterlace()
#END

[yesfan]

Thanks for your help.

It seems I was trying too hard, instead of using the simple tools. I just used the wizard as you suggested and all was ok. It was the field order that was causing the problems.

[offline]

Thanks for your help.
it was the field order that was causing the problems.

Aaha... thought so!.. & you are welcome