Hey,
I've been burning VCDs from MPEGs I create from DIVX movies with no problems for quite a while. Just as an additional info, my RCA DVD standalone plays them well, even when using high burning speeds (24x, 16x, 12x). My buddys DVD can't play anything burned over 8x so I started doing that and I noticed (not sure it's due to the speed reason) Audio and Video get out of sync sometimes when watching it. It plays fine on any computer. I tried bad media (it worked, not so good quality) and now I've been using TDKs, that seem pretty good.
I'll probably try it, but could it be the speed the problem?
I also installed the Nimo codecs to play an AC3 movie right before that started to happen. Could it be related?
I appreciate the help.
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Do you check the Avi's before you convert them, quite a lot of people skip this and go straight to TMPGEnc to convert.
Loading a AVI into Vdub might indicate that the audio track used is not using a constant bitrate, this will cause lip sync.
If that was the case, the audio needs to be saved uncompressed, to be used later in the conversion to mpeg. Each AVI is different, you might convert 20 before you find one of them with a problem. -
What KingJohn said...
Maybe the ultimate converter would be a script/GUI that takes a divx, runs it through divxfix, splits it in virtualdub, (used headAC3ce if need be)then feeds to TMPGenc. That DVDx group would know how . . .Panasonic DMR-ES45VS, keep those discs a burnin' -
Thanks for the replies...
Yes, I check the AVIs and the generated MPGs and they look good. No problems at all. In fact I use VDub to extract the audio uncompressed to generate the mpg like you said. There seems not to be a problem there.
In fact, the VCDs generated work just fine in my PC (using both mplayer and PowerDVD and on some friends standalone).
In my RCA5240P DVD standalone player, in some movies parts, the video leads the audio but catches up afterwards. What bothers me is that my player used to play everything (including SVCDs) well and now it doesn't.
I even tried burning at different speeds, medias, with same results.
Maybe my player is just wearing somehow for VCDs, if that's possible.
Not sure, tho. Not giving up quite yet -
Are there any cleaning disks for these, I know you can buy them for audio CD's. Maybe it needs a good clean.
The player does sound at fault if you have tried HQ disks, how many has it played ? how old is it ?
Are there any features on the DVD player you can switch on, noise reduction BR rates etc... ?
Also, how old is your writer, if its making weak disks, this also might be a problem. Have you tried a lower write speed, I can burn at 40X but have bought a more expensive writer, the cheap one's don't do so well. -
I'm having that same exact problem with the RCA5240P. Video seems to get ahead of audio for a second and then it corrects itself a second later. Only happens once or twice per VCD. But I haven't done any thorough checking since it's not regularly happeneing and doesn't bother me that much since it corrects itself.
I've been using memorex CDRs and I usually do not burn faster than 4x. But I know it doesn't happen with all my VCDs. I'm going to look into it and see if I can figure out the connections between the ones that go out of sync and the ones that don't. But, across the board, professional VCDs work without a hitch. -
I just updated my info. I'm using a new TDK 32x burner (very good I might say). My RCA is also new (4 months). I wish the problem was cleaning, but just like the other guy said, more people are having the same problem. If that's a player issue, I might return it (if possible). Otherwise I'll try to find a way of making mpgs/VCDs that work on it cause the player is cool.
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Well I have a Sony, paid a little more that the lower end players. My niece bought a Philips a lot less, and all the disks that play on mine, will give problems on hers. The problems range to freezing, but never at the same location twice, to audio sync.
I have never had any problems with this hacked Sony
http://www.techtronics.com/uk/shop/50-sony-dvp-ns400-multi-region-dvd-player.html
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well so far, VCDs that I've burned from a bin or mpeg, that I didn't make myself, work in the player without a hitch. VCDs that I burn from an mpeg that I make from a divx avi have the problem. I'm going to try that vritual dub and see if pulling out the wav first then combining it in tmpenc works any better. Before I was just using tmpenc to do the conversion.
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Well I played with it some more. I used tmpenc->nero, virtualdub->tmpenc->nero, virtualdub->tmpenc->vcdeasy(cue/bin)->nero and I also let nero do the whole conversion by itself. Letting Nero do all the work was the only way I could get a vcd where the video and sound wouldn't occaisionally go in and out of sync. Since nothing else worked, it makes me think it's something with tmpenc. Tomorrow I'll see if I can dig something else up to do the mpeg conversion besides nero and tmpenc to see what that turns up.
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well so far, VCDs that I've burned from a bin or mpeg, that I didn't make myself, work in the player without a hitch. VCDs that I burn from an mpeg that I make from a divx avi have the problem.
But you go on to say that mpeg files you never make will also work correctly, but then say any DivX files you convert to mpeg don't work, this brings me back to authoring the disk, and the creation of the mpeg.
You need to be very precise in these forums, as people need to guess what your problem is. Sometimes the guess works out OK, other times it has nothing to do with the problem.
1, Download AVI
2, load into Vdub and scan for bad frames, if any found, select from the menu video > Direct Stream Copy Audio > Direct Stream Copy. Save as, save out another file.
If Vdub warns you about an variable non standard bitrate in the audio, you also need to save out the audio as a WAV file uncompressed at 44.1Khz.
3, now that the AVi is correct, you load it into TMPGEnc.
Load VCD template, and if you previously saved out a WAV, you need to tell TMPGEnc to use that instead of the AVI audio.
After the conversion, this mpeg will be "Fully compliant" so no programs later will complain.
Burn the VCD to a good quality disk, If using Nero, you do not need to include the CD-I compatibility or the autorun for PC, none of those are required to play on a DVD player.
You should also check the box in Nero that says "Create Standard Compliant CD" Also select PAL or NTSC for your format. Make sure the Disc is closed, so that nothing more can be written to it, leaving the disk open will also cause problems on some players. -
Well I followed your step by step intructions and no change. Virtual dub didn't report any problems for video or audio. BTW, when I extracted the audio into a wav file, it only took 1.5 minutes (full processing). Is it supposed to happen that quick? Then, I ran the avi and the uncompressed wav through tmpenc (this avi was 25fps so I used the pal-vcd template) and burned in Nero. When I made the VCD, it desyncs in the same spots as all my other attempts.
Still the only succesful way for me to convert a file is to drop the AVI into Nero and let Nero do the conversion.
I'm borrowing copy of the panasonic encoder. I want to see if that gives me sync problems too or if it's just tmpenc. I'll know by tonight. -
well panasonic worked without a hitch for whatever reason. If I can tweak the quality some I'll forget about using tmpenc. Although it is annoying that tmpenc isn't working properly.
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Originally Posted by ______
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Yes, that's exactly what I did. Which is also how one of the newbie guides tells you how to do it ( http://www.vcdhelp.com/divxtovcd.htm ). I did it multiple times to make sure I had the settings right. I can try it again but I think the results will be the same.
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Just as an update... I have found a work around and have been creating SVCDs (NTSC always!) instead of VCDs and my player likes it better.
Oddly the quality is much better and I was able to fit 1:45 in one SVCD!!
I'll just have to live with my pile of VCD's that won't play in my RCA... until I buy a new player. -
Have you got the latest tempenc - i used the same guide as you and the link to tempenc is an older one.
Guess what it works correctly with the newer one!!!
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Its probably still a VCD with a SVCD header.
Fooling the player."Today is only yesterdays tomorrow" -
for the guys who are using the newer version of TMPGenc, do you mean that using the newer program COMPLETELY resolves the problem of audio and video going in and out of sync? Your replies would be greatly appreciated
!!!!!
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Originally Posted by courtneybagot
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Nice. 20 replies and no solution
. I have the same problem and my Toshiba DVD player is faily new and eats everything. The problem occurs on most VCD's from AVI's. If i burn downloads of mpg files, it works great. It always is in dark passages, where the pictures start to 'rush'. I think the mpeg conversion decides to skip some frames. Is there a way to enforce a constant frame rate in TEMPGENC? I think the problem is there.
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I think you're right about where the problem is Jim. I'm using the latest version and still have the problem. I suggest, if possible, using something else to do the conversion like Nero or panasonic encoder. Of course, Nero, you have virtually no control and panasonic you have to purchase. But they both work great for me. I can still use tmpenc for cutting and merging and whatever else. Just not converting.
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After experimenting one day, there is only one solution: Create a SVCD. No sync problems with those on my DVD player and the images are much better too 8) :P
. And one more tip: Use rewritables till u are satisfied
and make a disc copy then
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Originally Posted by JimSpade
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Solution for me:
Split the file into seperate AVI and WAV and frameserve the AVI via virtual-dub with full processing and let tmpgenc grab audio from the wav file. For some reason, frameserving the video solves all my sync problems in tmpgenc. I'm using tmpgenc v2.6
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