Via chipsets are they really that bad(read on)

[Trik]

As far as I found if ya run Win2k and have an Athlon ya need a patch from AMD. If ya run Win2k and you have a VIA mobo with 4x AGP and a 4x AGP video card ya need a fix from Microsoft. As for the Via 4in1, Epox said if you run Win2k on an 8KHA+ with the Via Apollo KT266a chipset ya don't need the Via 4in1 drivers.

Since I did all that my machine has had no problems. Before, I was crashing all the time.

ZAP!!:

You got a link to the pages those files can be DL'ed from?

[CubDukat]

I recently replaced my old, Aladdin TNT2-based MB for an Abit VH6Tboard which uses the VIA Apollo Pro133T chipset.

Unfortunately, that was before I read about how it and the Soundblaster Live! series cards don't like to play nice together.

Since then, their problems have been causing other problems for my capture card, a Pinnacle Studio DC10plus.I never used to suffer any frame drops at all (really), but now I have, on the average, 12-15 frames per hour dropped.

Now, that may not sound like much, but when I go to create files over one hour in length, the end result is glitching and stuttering in both the audio and the video near the end.

I've tried everything I know of, short of replacing the board, but nothing seems to help, so I figure I'll deal with it, since I just bought the thing, and it works beautifully for everything else. Eventually, I probalby will get rid of it, since there's very little use for P3-based boards anymore.

Fortunately, it totally sped up my encoding work.

So, apart from the SBLive problems, I would highly recommend VIA-based boards, if for no other reason than to escape the tyranny of Intel.

Just don't get ALi-based boards...

[crjackson]

From *personal* experience, I know that the AMD 761 chipset (Gigabyte 7IEX4 mobo) doesn't work correctly, but the KT133a chipset (MSI Turbo Limited Edition) does.

Just a bit of info. The Gigabyte 7IEX4 has the:

AMD® 751 (Irongate) North Bridge

AMD® 756 (Viper) South Bridge

(I have one of these too...)

I have an Abit KG7 with Hybird AMD761/VIA 686B chipset. It works flawless with WinXP and I get ZERO frames dropped with a DC10+ except on damaged tape source. I can easily record for 2+ hours with 0 frames lost.

It's a 1.4Ghz Atthy. and I have no problems with 5 PCI slots filled (1 still open) and GF2-AGP.

I also have an Asus A7V with all VIA chipset and no problems dropping frames or otherwise using the DC10+ card. BTW they both use the dreaded/problematic SBLive! card without a glitch.

No special patches or drives needed. I'm just lucky I guess.....

[leebo]

Or maybe it has something to do with the "B" chipset?????

[crjackson]

The Asus A7V Rev. 1.2 uses the:

KT133 Chipset (VT8363 Northbridge / VT82C686A Southbridge).

Both are rock solid systems. The Asus only has a 1.0Ghz processor though.

[leebo]

Then you got lucky.

I'll report this to the proper authorities!

[humdinger]

hmmm ive never had problems using via chipsets... up until I decided I was gonna start using my pc to do some capturing instead of playing games on it I've had a billion problems, too numerous to list, and I've even had dazzle tech support admit their dv bridge has 'issues' with Via chipsets. That being said after much desperation I switched to a very expensive P4 setup, and lo and behold I had just as many problems, though not strictly related to the Mobo chipset (it has a SiS chipset). I have seen many MANY discussions on best setup/chipset combo on all sorts of forums, not just at vcdhelp, and it got me thinking, if there's this much discussion about ppls problems, then obviously u need to goto a solution which ppl never discuss, because they are too happy making movies, they don't need to. What answer did I find fitted this line of thought? I bought a mac. Contraversial I know, but if you are serious about video editing, the mac is the ideal solution, right out of the box. Everything from firewire to dvd-r is built in, it's robust, and it's reliable, and you don't need to um and ah about what upgrades you are going to buy, whether it will be compatible or whatever. It's just there, and it works. Granted they cost more, and you need the extra software, but if you want results, go by the old saying 'you get what you pay for'. I've had mine for 3 months now, it's NEVER crashed, works fine with my dv bridge, and I now have a healthy collection of DVDs created from digital satellite, with no visable quality loss. Just my 2 cents

[leebo]

I was waiting to see how long it would take to bring up the "Which is better - PC or Mac?" argument.

Unfortunately, thats off topic.

But since you asked for it

Everything from firewire to dvd-r is built in, it's robust, and it's reliable, and you don't need to um and ah about what upgrades you are going to buy, whether it will be compatible or whatever. It's just there, and it works.

You mean like a turnkey machine? Same difference, except with a Windows machine you don't necessarily have to upgrade your OS when a new version of your editing software is released.

Never crashes? I know MANY Mac owners who would argue with you on that one.

Just my 2 cents

Which is probably about all you have left!

[rinkel]

Well okay,
i'll post my experiences..
I have 1000mhz pentiu, on cuv4e mobo.

Installing the DC10 was nothing but troubles at start.. with my other pc i had NO problems at all.
But after everything was working i had ZERO dropped frames, but the quality was nothing compared to my other PC.
So i installed the PCI-performance enhancer.. this really give me GREAT captures, but after about 10 secs everything my PC locked up completely for about 1 minutes, and.... 300 lost frames or something like that.

It was solved when i put the PCI-card in a different one..

Maybe this will help others.. apparently the VIA chipset is somewhat more picky. But then... i'm not an expert on this and maybe i had chosen the right PCI-bus at start in my other PC

[humdinger]

Never crashes? I know MANY Mac owners who would argue with you on that one.

heh its a fair point, but i'd like to make my views known, thats all. Of course, I didn't say they never crashed, I just said mine hasn't YET in 3 months, and that's how long I spent trying to get any of my PCs to a point with some semblance of stability....

[ironwood321]

So if VIA chipset is the problem can you name a non via motherboard which is any good i.e. with speed that can fit the latest AMD processor which does not feature a via chipset?

Thing what concerns me is why you have to patch them in the first place? This proves there are incompatibility problems?

[leebo]

The 133a and 266a (or is it 233a?) chipsets are supposed to not have these problems. I assume the newer VIA chipsets do not have this problem either, but I don't have first hand experience with them.

[ZAP!!]

Here is a link to the reg fix for all Athlons running Win2k.
<http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/content_type/utilities/largePageMinimum.reg>

And look for article Q270715 on MS technet about the same thing.

[Banko]

If you're having problems with the VIA Chipsets, you probably didn't do the VIA 4-in-1 installation right. First after you install the OS, install the video card drivers, and any other drivers, and then install the Via 4-in-1 if you don't do that, you are going to have problems.

[loveturtleozark]

using a via chipset on my asus a7m
use to have crashes upgraded the power supply to enermax 430W
no more crashes whatsoever
thats with virtual memory disabled(all the time),some games -blair witch 1-3 would complain that there wasnt enough memory only had 256MB cas 2 pc133 at the time wasnt a problem just reenabled virt mem then disabled it after I was through playing
windows me 7month old install
never crashes