Will you watch the soccer world cup?

[ember]

Yeh- that ladyboy Rivaldo got a hand on his shoulder and fell down clutching his face!

[June]

It is hard to predict the result of the match between South Korea and Spain. Personally I think Spain is better than South Korea team. But The match will be hold in South Korea with so many home fans in red T-shirt. So it's 50:50 game.

What I am concerning about is that South Koreans are so enthusiastic and sometimes even mad at Soccer game these days. It seems to me that South Koreans have been making all of the other countries as their enemy if that country do a little bit bad things to South Korea in sports matches. Actually, Italy is being big enemy to South Korean much more than the 'traditional enemies' such as Japan and US. So what countries will be next?


The candidates are Spain, Germany and Brazil.

[resnullius]

rivaldo might have faked it but he did get the hand in the face. not the shoulder.

[June]

South Korea won over Spain in PK. ( After overtime )

[Kennyshin]

South Korea beat Spain 5-3 in a penalty shootout

[Helmut]

Another weird effort from the line-referee...

Korea was worth to win the match.. spain allmost didn't do anything!!

Hope Korea goes throw to the final!

[Kennyshin]

I didn't watch any game but there are a lot of protests about referees.

[ember]

rivaldo might have faked it but he did get the hand in the face. not the shoulder.

Look again m8

Well done Turkey- great golden goal. And who would bet against a Turkey/S Korea final?

[resnullius]

a friend of mine taped the game he's supposed to bring me it so i can capture i'll send it to you if you want and then we'll see what you say.

[ember]

Sure. The clip I saw was Rivaldo and an England defender jumping for the ball (front view) and the defender's arm on the shoulder of Rivaldo, then slipping off. Rivaldo then turns and falls clutching his face.

[Helmut]

Rivaldo get the english players hand in his face.. but it can't have hurt so much that Rivaldo tryed to get it to look like. He is a really ladyboy!!!

[d4n13l]

I hope Spain win

Doh!

Sure. The clip I saw was Rivaldo and an England defender jumping for the ball (front view) and the defender's arm on the shoulder of Rivaldo, then slipping off. Rivaldo then turns and falls clutching his face.

I think (?) that it was either Ferdinand or Cambell that went up for a header with Rivaldo. A hand (lightly) brushed (if at all) the side of Rivaldo's face, but nothing to for him to cry about by a long shot. How you can tell how he is play acting, is when you watch Rivaldo while he is crying like a baby on the floor: he momentarily stops and takes a quick peak to see if the ref is paying any attention. After he sees that the ref isn't paying attention, he makes a "miraculous" recovery. Quite pathetic really.
If Rivaldo had done that 30 years ago, he would have been laughed off the pitch. I expect Pele would have kicked him up the backside. lol

[Helmut]

Rivaldo get the english players hand in his face.. but it can't have hurt so much that Rivaldo tryed to get it to look like. He is a really ladyboy!!!

[Helmut]

Korea - Brazil in the final


Brazil: People are saying that Brazil got a bad defence but I say:

"the best defence is a good offence".

S.Korea: They are as hungry as lions

"Where there's a will, there's a way"

[Kennyshin]

Yahoo Japan Worldcup 2002

I have tried to read the responses from Japanese on Yahoo Japan bulletin boards. Very many are criticizing South Korea and Koreans in general. Thanks to the fact that there are one million Koreans in Japan and several million South Koreans can read, write, and speak Japanese, there has been a small-scale war between the two nations. Many Japanese expressed that they felt ashamed to have South Korea as a co-host of Worldcup 2002.

It's much worse in Korean-language boards because there is almost NO non-Korean and even those very few who criticize their own country are savagely suppressed and ignored. Most South Koreans will never admit there was any problem when it was South Korea that won the games and those who do admit it will forever isolated and banned to stay. It is still a closed society and the country is not far from the times of totalitarian government. Conform, or leave.

[ember]

And there was us English supporters having petty arguments, about how Seaman's greasy ponytail probably slowed him down, and here we see bigger issues raised. Humbling

[Kennyshin]

Korea - Brazil in the final


Brazil: People are saying that Brazil got a bad defence but I say:

"the best defence is a good offence".

S.Korea: They are as hungry as lions

"Where there's a will, there's a way"

The way (most) South Koreans view it is that they want to regain confidence lost during Japanese, Soviet, and US occupation.

Nothing more and you can also probably intellectually understand why most "third world" countries support South Korea, Turkey, and Senegal instead of European teams.

But I think it is enough now. South Koreans have become excessively greedy and they are trying to justify anything to satisfy their emotional needs.

Hm... just found Turkey also made it. The brother country for many (not all) Koreans.

[AND1]

i think the korea vs spain game was fixed. It was so obvious that spain gave up that last kick. i think the he accepted money from the korean government to miss.

[ember]

What good would letting S Korea win the world cup do?

[June]

Two Spanish player strongly comlained about line referee. I coudn't find the original text. It's translated version.

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▲모리엔테스〓스페인과 한국전은 친선경기가 아니라 월드컵 8강전 이었다는 점을 강조하고 싶다. 스페인의 두골은 득점으로 인정됐어야 했다.논쟁의 여지로 남을 것이다.

▲엘게라〓 한국전은 이탈리아와 한국의 16강전을 기억나게 했다.
수많은 사람들이 스페인이 두골을 넣은 것을 보았다.스페인의 승리를 원하지 않는 사람들 때문에 졌다.
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They are 'Morientes' and 'Elgera'. First one is 'Morientes'.
He said that disallowed two goals of spain will be remain controversial. And 'Elgera' said this match reminded him of the 16 round match ( Korea vs Italy ). He thought that Spain defeated because there are some people who don't want spain to win over Korea.


hmm. Whatever many people will talk about the referee, judgement will not be changed. That's the way Fifa rules.

[d4n13l]

A Spanish player paid to miss? LOL! What about the linesman? Spain should have won 1-0 before the penalties even began....
The linesman is going to have to come up with a pretty good excuse for flagging up like that; especially when he was so close at the time. You could see it was blatently still in play even from the higher tiers in the middle of the stadium!

[boss]

as for rivaldo against england i saw the replay. he was faking the injury(again). but ronaldhinio's free kick was not a fluke and he should'nt have been sent off.(he seems to have been fighting with danny mills all day and should have got a yellow card instead). as for korea i have to admit i wanted italy to beat them because i thought italy had a better chance of beating spain.but having said that i am delighted they beat spain, and on pens as well. excellent! as for the disallowed goals i really getting worried about the standard of some of the referees.
oh and ken, thanks for your views. but about third world countries not supporting european teams. i have to say i feel sad about that because people in ireland (at least) are delighted about what japan, senegal and south korea and even the u.s.a. have done at this world cup. take for example the korea-spain game. my father phoned to tell my mum to wake me up because the game was going to penalties! even my mum watched and she only usually cares bout the ireland team. and we were both deligheted with the result and not just beacause you beat spain who put us out. i would love to see south korea win the world cup!
oh, and as for your country and the u.s.a., i have to say ireland has a love-hate relationship with america as well. we never got any economic aid from america after the war, which annoys some irish people i think. considering how many irish people emigrated there.
ireland is supposed to be a neutral country, but the american army uses my local airport, shannon as a military airport. shannon is also the airport the americans supposedly used to ship the weapons to iran.(remember that?) during the gulf war to they refueled planes there and they are now using it for the "war on terrorisim." irish people are very wary and fed up about this war. when i recently went to shannon to go to the u.s. it was full of american soldiers- in uniform! we don't hate american people in ireland but we hate to be used as pawns in other peoples wars.
how do people in korea view these current world events?

[ember]

but ronaldhinio's free kick was not a fluke

I think he meant to score too....but
Old chap think of it like this: if you see the keeper 2 yards forward and nearest the left post, do you 1. try to chip it over his head into the left corner or 2. Try to bend it into the right corner?
Which has greater success of going into the goal?

Would you like a jelly baby?

[Kennyshin]

boss,

As I was once a student of English literature, I am aware of the importance of Irish literature - written in English, but it was a rather fresh news that modern people of Ireland speak more English than Irish.

There are still a few US Army divisions in South Korea and I know the importance of the presence of US Army, Navy, Marines, and Air Force in this country. However, I was also born in Kwangju and spent 24 years there. There were always multiple battalions of armed police troops - mostly very well-experienced and highly motivated - around all major US installations such as American (Cultural) Center in Kwangju. Closely associated with communist radicals, tens of thousands of students were always ready to attack, burn, break, and destroy anything. Kwangju is the city where more people were massacred by the US Army-backed military regime in May of 1980 than in Beijing of 1989. Many, very many South Koreans also firmly believe US soldiers in South Korea are above the law and most of them have not been punished for murder and other criminal acts. Whether true or false, they believe all of them and they are solemn.

I was inside several of those groups and I tried to reform some of them. The only thing I want them to do is to move to North Korea right now never to bother with South Korea because they don't criticize anything about that regime and they are always silent about all the murders and famine prevalent there. As far as I am concerned, they are nothing better than a mob of terrorists full of idiocy and hypocricy, armed with fanatic nationalism and irresponsible sympathy about communism.

However, in general, average South Koreans do not like the presence of army from any foreign country. Koreans were also one of the most cruel kinds in Asia-Pacific during the World War II and in Vietnam. All of this will change gradually with the ubiquity of prosperity and international relationship.

[Helmut]

Can we please stop discuss politcs here and talk about soccer instead!!!!!

[d4n13l]

I predict the final to be.... Brazil 3 - Germany 1.
But this is the most bizarre world cup that I have ever seen so, South Korea 21 - Turkey 22, would not surprise me.

[Kennyshin]

Can we please stop discuss politcs here and talk about soccer instead!!!!!

Yep, and I'd like to see people discuss soccer only instead of trying to associate anything that happened during soccer with a nation or country.

i think the korea vs spain game was fixed. It was so obvious that spain gave up that last kick. i think the he accepted money from the korean government to miss.

The Korean government did what to whom? I can see everywhere peoples from all countries talking about politics and economy in boards dedicated to Worldcup 2002 only.

I could have labeled that level of remarks as nothing more than racist.

[boss]

ember, i am not an "old chap" i am still young! :P as for ron's goal , yeah, i think going for the right post was the most obvious option, but ron knew that there was a better chance of catching seaman out if he just lobbed him which he did. i think he also knew that seaman's vision for the lob would be obstructed by scholes.

[ember]

better chance of catching seaman out if he just lobbed him which he did

You really believe that Seaman had no chance of punching that ball? LOL.
Ok- I look forward to seeing Ronaldinho chip a few more keepers this coming season

[boss]

well as i said, scholes was blocking seaman's view! Ron probably saw the goal seman coceded against germany at wembley and fancied his chances of catching him out as well. and seaman was off his line don't forget! obviously seman had a good chance to save it, nothing's certain in football, especially at this world cup!