Need the Net, but Have No Money

[ProJiJi]

This thread is essentially a continuation of discussion in another thread, and my first post here is specifically a continuation of this post: https://forum.videohelp.com/threads/419935-Yahoo-Is-It-Down-For-You#post2791901

My contention was that those with a Windows 7 32-bit OS have not been able to access their Yahoo email accounts since early this year.

I have very clear documentation that as of December 22nd last year the same Yahoo email accounts could be accessed using a Windows 7 32-bit OS.

But I am not sure how the following written statement in that post relates to this issue of not being able to access a Yahoo email account, nor how it relates to not being able to afford an updated OS:

Free options are better than no options if you can't afford the couple of dollars a month.

I do think, though, it is best to start a new thread.

So I am respectfully requesting some clarification of that which I have quoted.

Thank you.

[ProJiJi]

It would also be wise to include some opinions from others that may be of value:
https://superuser.com/questions/1201295/is-it-possible-to-install-a-64-bit-os-on-32-bit-pc

One example from that discussion is:

A 32 bit CPU can't run 64 bit code "by design". Consequently, it can't boot a 64 bit OS which by definition contains a 64 bit kernel.

OS installers are well aware of this fact so refuse to install a 64 bit OS on 32 bit hardware in the first place.

[davexnet]

I can access yahoo mail using the Firefox web browser, Windows 7 32-bit

Are you talking about a specific scenario ?

[ProJiJi]

I can access yahoo mail using the Firefox web browser, Windows 7 32-bit

Are you talking about a specific scenario ?

Thank you very much, as now I hope a ray of positive waves is aimed at this matter.

Since January 22nd, JST, you are the first I have received a reply that you are able to access Yahoo mail using 32bit Win7 unit.

But may I confirm that you are using the FireFox ESR browser?

Again, thank you.

[davexnet]

Yes, the latest, this one:
https://www.firefox.com/en-US/firefox/115.32.0/releasenotes/?redirect_source=mozilla-o...n=about-dialog

[thecoalman]

So I am respectfully requesting some clarification of that which I have quoted.

If you can't afford to pay for email hosting a free option is better than no option.

It would also be wise to include some opinions from others that may be of value:
https://superuser.com/questions/1201295/is-it-possible-to-install-a-64-bit-os-on-32-bit-pc

That's not an opinion. it's impossible to run 64bit software on 32 bit.. 64 bit offers many advantages over 32 bit, chief among them more than 4GB of memory. That's a hard limit on 32 bit.

That's besides the point, as I already noted the reason you are being blocked is likely because of an outdated browser. It's strongly advisable to ditch windows 7 and install Linux. Running an OS that hasn't received updates in 6 years even with an updated browser is just asking to get hacked.

[ProJiJi]

From events that have taken place over the past few hours or so there are management individuals at AskWoody that disagree about installing a 64bit OS on 32bit hardware; as in the evidence is their top management thinks it is okay to install a 64bit OS on 32bit built hardware. That is a sad event, actually. If anyone cares to see the evidence of my statement, please let me know. Really not something I would have expected from them.

Now, about this outdated browser thing. I also used the FireFox ESR 115.32.0 and, unlike davexnet, was not able to access my Yahoo account.

Now this idea about Windows 7 and updates; I still receive . . . Well, let me show you:

Security Intelligence Update for Windows Defender Antivirus - KB915597 (Version 1.443.989.0) - Current Channel (Broad)

Installation date: ‎2/‎4/‎2026 7:41 AM

Installation status: Successful

Update type: Important

Install this update to revise the files that are used to detect viruses, spyware, and other potentially unwanted software. Once you have installed this item, it cannot be removed.

More information:
https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=2007160

Help and Support:
https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=52661

As for anyone interested in hacking this Windows 7 unit, they'd be wasting their time. All they would find is my research; like right here and what just happened over at AskWoody. Oh yes, and what happened over at phpBB. Yes, that was me.

Well, there will soon be publication of all this research, but I don't think that need be discussed here. And if that were hacked, I'd be very happy. It would place evidence in more hands.

You see, folks; after many centuries, serfdom has returned to human society. It's call the Internet.

Well, maybe that timestamp of "many centuries" isn't quite right in some nations on this planet.

But back to the main point here in this thread; you are sure, davexnet, that you have accessed a Yahoo email account in 2026? The last time I have in my records of a successful logging into a Yahoo account was December 22nd, last year, so one update earlier than the January 13th one. I might also have used Supermium, as well as FireFox.

Apologies, davexnet, but just want to be double sure. That information is going to require I go into another website for more research. Especially as it is now clear that AskWoody is no longer a reliable tech site for information.

Again, if anyone wants to see my files on the AskWoody case, just ask and I'll be happy to show them to you.

[pandy]

Alternatively you can:

- use bootable (USB?) WinPE to get minimal functionality OS with higher rev than Win7,
- use bootable Linux distribution,
- use virtual machine with higher Windows version or virtual machine with some Linux distribution.

[ProJiJi]

The bootable USB stick idea came up on AskWoody as we were exploring options and if you go to Linux you will see that there are no tech folks that state we can use a bootable USB 64bit Linux OS to a 32bit Win7 unit.

In fact, I did try it, though. And got the result it seemed like all the super techs were stating would result - trouble. A lot of it, too.

Now that "virtual machine" idea did not arise as an option, that I can remember as I type, in the discussion on AskWoody. But I do recall I have something about that in some of my notes, but don't remember why.

And Number One of the three options you listed isn't an option I am familiar with, I don't think. If it did get into my notes it was pushed under the rug, in a manner of expressing it.

Thank you for your post, I'll study that in my tomorrow. I am in the JST timezone and had better get my garbage out for can day and then get some sleep. it is just about 2100hrs here. And I haven't even taken my medicine my doctor requires every day.

EDIT: We have very strict rules here in Japan about what garbage goes out for picking up and on what day. Every other Friday in this AO is cans. Just a bit of odd info in case someone thought what I wrote as a sidenote was weird.

[thecoalman]

The bootable USB stick idea came up on AskWoody as we were exploring options and if you go to Linux you will see that there are no tech folks that state we can use a bootable USB 64bit Linux OS to a 32bit Win7 unit.

If you have a 32 bit system why would you even try to use 64 bit OS when 32 bit Linux OS is available?

[pandy]

Hardware capable to run Windows 7 is 64 bit anyway so using 32 bit is purely personal decision... Of course Linux from some time abandoning 32 bit versions (they are even consider to abandon CPU's not supporting AVX instruction set) but still i don't understand why use Windows 7 in 32 bit - i currently using very old Lenovo (IBM) notebook (Thinkpad T400) and Windows 7 but 64 bit (on 6/8GB RAM) - it works sufficiently good for regular. everyday tasks.

[ProJiJi]

The 2 units that are the initial focus of this project were both refurbished (upgraded from the Vista OS) by IBM and given to me by IBM way back after some work I did for them. Very likely easily passed off like that for the very reason they were 32bit architecture and somebody felt they were of no further use to them. Especially as my contract with them wasn't really anything so special. Maybe some manager felt it was a better way to sort of get rid of them, than to dump them in a trash bin. Or whatever they do with their junk. I don't think they are allowed to sell such used equipment. And I had been using both of them for the work under the contract I did for them.

But the original research has taken an odd turn, with some apparently respected MVP status individuals at AskWoody apparently disagreeing with common practices outlined at Linux and disagreement with a manager at AskWoody. And possibly an admin stepping into that with actions of her own. I suppose I shouldn't identify "her" in this post, but it is easy to find out who took Woody's position on the site after Woody passed on.

In fact, the reach of this research has now included Intel and will include another company at a future date. Eventually, it will have to reach Yahoo, but that will have to be snail mail and include SoftBank, my ISP now. They bought Yahoo ISP services here in Japan. But I will add the main office of Yahoo in the U.S. in the distribution, and index that in all copies. Next week I have an appointment to receive legal advice on adding regulatory agencies in the distribution. I used to work in Kasumigaseki, so that isn't too difficult to accomplish.

[pandy]

The 2 units that are the initial focus of this project were both refurbished (upgraded from the Vista OS) by IBM and given to me by IBM way back after some work I did for them. Very likely easily passed off like that for the very reason they were 32bit architecture and somebody felt they were of no further use to them. Especially as my contract with them wasn't really anything so special. Maybe some manager felt it was a better way to sort of get rid of them, than to dump them in a trash bin. Or whatever they do with their junk. I don't think they are allowed to sell such used equipment. And I had been using both of them for the work under the contract I did for them.

You have (probably) embedded license (stored in part of so called BIOS - this is SLIC entry - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BIOS?useskin=vector#Identification ) so you can legally install 64 bit Windows 7 (or perhaps higher).
OEM Windows 7 should be already activated after installation - personally i would check this path first - after all you probably can update Windows to 10 legally.

[ProJiJi]

It would be quite impolite if I were not to respond to your last post, pandy. I hope I'll be excused for taking too long to do so, but I tried another tech site and that has become a disaster, which is not too surprising.

BUT, also an absolutely amazing educational experience because i figured something out about 5AM JST, and that "something" started as "The Apollo 13 Moment" and then was downgraded to "Log 13" but that then got me in trouble because I tried to explain in basic terms what I had as a vision and the Mod/Admin team at that site removed my post within minutes. No surprise there. I get tech people really upset over and over and over. But that brain flash about 5AM told my brain what was wrong. And it was one event during that Apollo 13 mission which I realized explains perfectly what that "something" is.

But now to your suggestion, pandy. You are very likely correct. Some reason that idea did not cross my desk or my desktop. That was a very good suggestion, by the way. Good thinking there. I appreciate that.

But there is a big problem, pandy. I don't trust Microsoft any longer. I do not want any Windows 10 or Windows 11. I do not use Edge and even removed all Edge stuff from this unit, to include cleaning it out of the registry. Yes, Microsoft can still stick a popup onto my screen from time-to-time about using Edge, but that has, so far, been about all they can do. But a person has to be super careful because the tech employees at Microsoft are super clever at sneaking stuff onto our systems, even when we have repeatedly stated we don't want the stuff.

So that is a long explanation as to why I don't want to upgrade, even though you came up with a great idea. You outdid a whole group of supposedly hotshot tech folks elsewhere that didn't think of that.

Now, I did find a partial solution to the basic problem. That came about yesterday before I went to bed. One reason that Apollo 13 idea came to me after about 6 hours of sleep.

But it is only a partial solution.

And I am not so sure the site owner here can stand my continuing with what should be the full solution. The "full solution" is not good for business folks.

The first part of the solution I could explain in proper detail here, if anyone is interested. The second part of the solution I have already started more detailed discussion with my host company on maybe them (he) allowing me to do it.

By the way, my host company found a very interesting solution to another Net system trouble they and I discovered. That was discovered last night by them while I was sleeping. It was a very interesting discovery.