Is there ANY DVD ripper that won't give these kind of jagged artifacts

[DaneClark]

[Attachment 90717 - Click to enlarge]
I've tried VLC, Wonderfox, Winx, and Makemkv and all of them gives these hideous jagged lines when I try to rip cartoon DVDs. You can see what I'm talking about on places like Binky's chin and the box of chocolates.

Don't tell me to use handbrake. It keeps giving me "no valid sources found" even after I downloaded libdvdcss and put it in the handbrake folder.

Don't tell me to use QTGMC. Virtualdub keeps giving me error messages whenever I try to open an avisynth script that refers to it even though I downloaded all of the files I needed for it to work and made sure they were in the right folder.

This is frustrating the hell out of me. All I want is a ripper that can both rip encrypted discs and won't give those kinds of jagged artifacts. Someone PLEASE help.

[davexnet]

Assuming it's a commercial DVD with copy protection, MakeMKV should be fine.
The jagged lines are not the fault of a bad rip, it's the video itself.

For analysis and some suggestions, post a short section showing the problem.

[DaneClark]

This clip was ripped with MakeMKV and you can see what I'm talking about all over it, lines that are supposed to look smooth look jagged. These artifacts do not appear when I watch the disc on an actual DVD player on my TV. These kinds of artifacts show up on literally every cartoon DVD I try to rip and I know there must be some way of fixing it because I find MKVs online made by other people that don't have these kinds of issues all the time.

[davexnet]

MakeMKV shoud create a MKV with mpeg-2 video inside @ 720-480 (you can check this with mediainfo)
- that's the internal format of the DVD VOB's.

You sample file has been resized and reencoded, it's now progressive H.264 (AVC)
which is mostly useless for this analysis purposes

[Alwyn]

@Dane, make a snippet using AVIDemux as per my guide here.

Your MKV from the DVD will be MPEG 2, so use the MPEG PS output format.

[DaneClark]

@Dane, make a snippet using AVIDemux as per my guide here.

Your MKV from the DVD will be MPEG 2, so use the MPEG PS output format.

Here you go

[aramkolt]

Rippers only take what's on the disc and copy it over, so you can't really blame the ripping software for that and it does explain why the results will always look the same.

It appears to be a deinterlacing problem. Just open it in VLC and try different deinterlace modes for playback. My guess is you'll find after turning deinterlacing "on" under the video menu and deinterlace method to "IVTC" gets rid of the jagged edges altogether on playback.

I just did a quick screen recording (using Mac which I'd say is generally less "interlaced content friendly") and attached it with IVTC deinterlacing through VLC. If you just want to view them, then use something like VLC. or Media Player Classic in windows and be sure to set the deinterlace mode to IVTC. If you want to transcode to MP4, you can use hybrid if handbrake isn't working for you, but handbrake will also do IVTC. Reason you're running into this with cartoons specifically (and maybe not other types of NTSC DVD content) is that it was most likely shot at a film framerate since hand drawn animation is less work (but less fluid) with fewer frames per second.

[davexnet]

I tried a couple of things keeping the same resolution as the source. Reduced the rate to the underlying film rate (23.976)
qtgmc is a big help with these kind of dodgy sources.
Here's a couple of results, one with qtgmc and the other with santiag

[Alwyn]

@Davexnet, that Santiag looks good. What's your script?

[Selur]

Just for fun, I played around with Vapoursynth and BasicVSR++.
Small side question for the general cartoon lovers, if you encounter something like:

do you try to remove all those white borders?

Cu Selur

[davexnet]

I also noticed the white borders. I tried dehalo_alpha, may have helped a little.
I was also thinking about mpeg2source and whether any of it's additional options may help or not
(I didn't get the time to try it)

mpeg2source("C:\Users\davex\Desktop\avs_test\c1.d2v")
tfm().tdecimate()
santiag()
dehalo_alpha(rx=1.0, ry=1.0, DarkStr=0.6, BrightStr=1.5)
mcdegrainsharp(bblur=0.12,csharp=0.23)
return last