Identify this DVD disc

[cholla]

I'm having a problem ripping these DVDs for a backup.
They are a box set of MASH.
I thought they were commercial pressed discs but I no longer believe they are.
The DVD disc only identifies as DVD-ROM in ImgBurn & Nero CDSpeed.
Anyone know something about them ?
Nero InfoTool shows this:

[Attachment 90256 - Click to enlarge]

Application shows as Nero Burning ROM.
This indicates to me it is a Written(Burned) DVD.
Nothing shows it as DVD + or - R .

In this picture there is Japanese or Chinese writing:
The only English says "DVD Video"

[Attachment 90257 - Click to enlarge]

I do not know why it posted twice.
One of the posts can be removed.

[flashandpan007]

https://forum.videohelp.com/threads/419616-Identify-this-DVD-disc

[october262]

I'm having a problem ripping these DVDs for a backup.
They are a box set of MASH.
I thought they were commercial pressed discs but I no longer believe they are.
The DVD disc only identifies as DVD-ROM in ImgBurn & Nero CDSpeed.
Anyone know something about them ?
Nero InfoTool shows this:

[Attachment 90256 - Click to enlarge]

Application shows as Nero Burning ROM.
This indicates to me it is a Written(Burned) DVD.
Nothing shows it as DVD + or - R .

In this picture there is Japanese or Chinese writing:
The only English says "DVD Video"

[Attachment 90257 - Click to enlarge]

I do not know why it posted twice.
One of the posts can be removed.

did you try ripping the discs with makemkv ??

[cholla]

No to trying MakeMKV.
I did get them to rip with DVDRebuilder but the time lengths are off & this doesn't play correctly on my TVs media player.
The DVD also has no encryption.
From AnyDVD HD:

Summary for drive E: (AnyDVD HD 7.6.8.0, BDPHash.bin 15-08-10)
SONY DVD RW DRU-810A 1.0A JUN06 ,2005
Drive (Hardware) Region: 0 (not set!)

Current profile: DVD-ROM
Media is a DVD.
Booktype: dvd-rom (version 1), Layers: 1
Total size: 2286128 sectors (4465 MBytes)

Video DVD (or CD) label: NEW1
Media is not CSS protected.
Media is region free.
Video Standard: NTSC

Structural copy protection not found.
RCE protection not found.
UDF filesystem patched!
Autorun not found on Video DVD.
Bad sector protection not found.
Emulating RPC-2 drive with region 1!

I believe this would be about the same with DVDFab Passkey or DVD Copy.
It is likely a DVD+R because it shows DVD-ROM.

[davexnet]

For a burned disk you would see MID info:

[Alwyn]

Being unprotected, can you access the disk in Windows Explorer, then just drag off the VIDEO_TS folder?

[netmask56]

Use MakeMKV

[cholla]

For a burned disk you would see MID info:

I know there should be MID info. But this is the only DVD I have had with Chinese characters.

Being unprotected, can you access the disk in Windows Explorer, then just drag off the VIDEO_TS folder?

Yes. This is what the Windows Explorer looks like.
Note the times of the main .VOBs.
I usually run a TV series DVD through DVDShrink & break it into a .VOB per episode.
I have deleted DVDShrink rip but The episodes only showed 6 seconds.
In both VlC & MPC-HC the episodes showed as about 25 minutes each & played correctly..
On my TV they showed 6 seconds & that was all that played.

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did you try ripping the discs with makemkv ??

Use MakeMKV

I did using the backup function as I wanted DVD compliant folders & files.
Almost the same results as the direct copy with Windows Explorer.

[Alwyn]

ISOBuster might crack them. I don't know if it works on DVDs.

[pcspeak]

I wrote this in 2017 to demux episodes of MASH.
A search of VideoHelp for PgcDemux usage will find a number of threads to read.
It may work on the DVDs you have.

@echo off
if exist Output\*.* (del /q Output\*.*) else md Output
for %%a in ("*.ifo") do set ifo=%%a
set /p count=How many episodes are there to demux?
echo. && echo Demuxing %count% episodes. This will take some time. Please wait....

for /L %%b in (1,1,%count%) do (
    echo episode_%%b.
    PgcDemux -nocellt -pgc %%b -customvob bnvasl %ifo% Output
    ren "Output\VTS_01_1_00%%b.VOB" "episode_%%b.vob"
    )

echo. && echo Demux of %count% episodes complete.
echo Press any key to exit... && pause>nul

:end

I believe one of the episodes was an FBI warning, so you may have to play around with the episode count.
Cheers.

[ProWo]

VTS_03_2.VOB
VTS_03_4.VOB
VTS_03_5.VOB

should be 3 episodes of 26:25 each.

Try clever FFmpeg-GUI.
Load VTS_03_2.VOB and answer NO to the question (for rip the whole DVD).
Then you can elaborate the episode further.

Repeat this with the other two VOB's.

[cholla]

ISOBuster might crack them. I don't know if it works on DVDs.

I have an older full paid version of IsoBuster Pro.
I did not pay to update & the newer versions also do blu ray.
The version I have was made for DVDs & CDs.
I will give it a try.

@ pcspeak,
Thanks but I do not know where or how to use the code.

@ ProWo,
I will give it a try.
But note these two .VOBs
VTS_03_4.VOB 1,048,574 KB 26:25:49
VTS_03_5.VOB 355,354 KB 26:28:38
I doubt the 355,354 KB .VOB is 26:28:38 in length. or the 1,048,574 KB either,
The 26 is hours.
If you mean 26:25 is minutes & seconds I know from playing the DVD all the episodes are not the exact same length.

[Vidd]

Unfortunately, it looks like you got scammed and got a bootleg DVD set. It happened to me in the past as well, but I was able to get my money back after reporting the seller to Amazon/Ebay.

MASH would most definitely be protected and be on a DVD-9. A disc with a size of exactly 4.36GB is a telltale sign of a fake. It is getting harder to tell bootlegs now since many them are on pressed silvers. But it is bad because they are compressed down to 4.36GB, which is half the quality.

[pcspeak]

@ pcspeak,
Thanks but I do not know where or how to use the code.

Copy the full content of a MASH DVD to a folder on your PC.
Download PgcDemux from VideoHelp. Extract and copy the content to the same folder.
Create a text file from the script I posted above - call it 'mash.cmd'
Put it in the same folder as the MASH video files.
Run it.

I bought the first 9 seasons of MASH. I've watched ALL MASH seasons, several times.
I didn't think seasons 10 onwards were worth my money.
My copies are:
1 boxed season = 3 disks @ 8 episodes per disk = 24 episodes
9 seasons X 24 = 216 episodes

[pchan]

It's simplified Chinese characters on the DVD.
美国陆军流动外科医院第一季
U.S. Army Mobile Surgery Hospital Season 1

[cholla]

Very hard to tell.
How many DVD's are in this box set? There should be 34 discs for seasons 1-11
If they play well then perhaps you should forget about ripping
Alternatively you can buy a new box set from Amazon US for $55 plus shipment (in the US I think the shipment is much cheaper that to my location and rip them if you must.

My set is32 discs & has all the episodes. They play well & are OK quality
They have nice menus & probably better than the original commercial menus.
The bootlegger did a nice job.

Unfortunately, it looks like you got scammed and got a bootleg DVD set. It happened to me in the past as well, but I was able to get my money back after reporting the seller to Amazon/Ebay.

I've had this set for over 10 years so I won't be getting a refund.

MASH would most definitely be protected and be on a DVD-9. A disc with a size of exactly 4.36GB is a telltale sign of a fake. It is getting harder to tell bootlegs now since many them are on pressed silvers. But it is bad because they are compressed down to 4.36GB, which is half the quality.

I agree i should have known by the size.
I do disagree on "half the quality".
That depends on how much the full DVD9 size actually used.
I've had commercial dual layer pressed discs that were barely over 5GB.

It's simplified Chinese characters on the DVD.
美国陆军流动外科医院第一季
U.S. Army Mobile Surgery Hospital Season 1

Thanks for the translation. I feel better about these DVDs now.

For a burned disk you would see MID info:

I still believe they are burned discs. Made in China some years ago & without a MID.
If they were not burned then Nero InfoTool would not show Nero Burning ROM as the application.

@ pcspeak,
I believe I have found a method but I plan to try the method you posted as well.
It will help me learn some more about using a code script.

This is what worked to get what I wanted. With the time corrected so the videos play on my TV via USB correctly.
Thanks to those that made these suggestions.
I still need to test this with a few more DVDs to be sure.

Being unprotected, can you access the disk in Windows Explorer, then just drag off the VIDEO_TS folder?

This worked & I was able to use this for the next step.

I then used DVDShrink to create the separated episode backup I wanted.
The time of each episode was off in the DVDShrink backup.

Then I used ProWo's method with Clever on the DVDShrink backup.
This corrected the time on each episode.
I tested this & the episodes played correctly.
I kept it in the .VOB format I wanted.
This is for playing from a HDD.
If I ever needed to I could convert this to something I could burn to a DVD.

[cholla]

Copy the full content of a MASH DVD to a folder on your PC.
Download PgcDemux from VideoHelp. Extract and copy the content to the same folder.
Create a text file from the script I posted above - call it 'mash.cmd'
Put it in the same folder as the MASH video files.
Run it.

I followed the instructions.
I get this message:

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I bought the first 9 seasons of MASH. I've watched ALL MASH seasons, several times.
I didn't think seasons 10 onwards were worth my money.
My copies are:
1 boxed season = 3 disks @ 8 episodes per disk = 24 episodes
9 seasons X 24 = 216 episodes

I still watch a episode almost every day.

This is the boxed set I have:
33 discs 256 episodes disc 33 has the final 2 hour episode.

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[cholla]

@ pcspeak ,
I followed your instructions with a Rawhide DVD disc.
It worked fine & had the individual episodes.
So I was able to use the script correctly.
It is the MASH DVD discs that apparently are the problem.

To other members that made suggestions:
I have tested the procedure that works on 4 MASH DVDs now.
1. The drag & drop from Windows Explorer suggested by Alwyn.
2.The rip with DVDShrink to separate the episodes My own process.
3.Then Multiplexing each .VOB with Clever. Using the method ProWo suggested.In post #11 .

[dellsam34]

I had a similar box set of that 70's Show that most discs did not play, But I don't think those are DVD-R's from the surface color, I believe they are single layer DVD-ROMs done in an industrial stamper, Do they have the copyrights or not? that's a different matter.
Now I have the Blu-ray box set and dumped the DVD set in the trash few years ago.

[cholla]

But I don't think those are DVD-R's from the surface color, I believe they are single layer DVD-ROMs done in an industrial stamper

I tend to agree with you on this.
A professional bootleg created box set.

The only thing that conflicts with this is:
Nero InfoTool reports: Application:NERO BURNING ROM
VSO Inspector reports Application:NERO BURNING ROM
This may be a "false read" but it should mean these are burned DVDs.
I suppose it is possible that a rip with NERO BURNING ROM of the commercial copyrighted DVD was used to create the "single layer DVD-ROMs done in an industrial stamper". Meaning used to create the master for the press.

Do they have the copyrights or not?

Very little if any. I was able to just drop & drag the VIDEO_TS folder to Windows Explorer & use it.
Without Any DVD HD or DVDFab Passkey.
When Any DVD HD or DVDFab Passkey were used this is what they found:
Minimal copy protections.

AnyDVD HD
Summary for drive D: (AnyDVD HD 7.6.8.0, BDPHash.bin 15-08-10)
HL-DT-ST BD-REWH14NS40 1.03 N0A09A0K9LD6GD0625
Drive (Hardware) Region: 1

Current profile: DVD-ROM
Media is a DVD.
Booktype: dvd-rom (version 1), Layers: 1
Total size: 2286128 sectors (4465 MBytes)

Video DVD (or CD) label: NEW5
Media is not CSS protected.
Media is region free.
Video Standard: NTSC

Structural copy protection not found.
RCE protection not found.
UDF filesystem patched!
Autorun not found on Video DVD.
Bad sector protection not found.
Emulating RPC-2 drive with region 1!

Passkey
Info for drive [G:\] (Passkey 9.4.7.6)
Vendor: hp, Product: DVD D  DH16D6SH
Revision: BHD4, Vendor specific: 2011/04/28 21:03
Drive region: 1 (RPC II), changes left: 4(user) / 4(vendor)

Disc media: DVD (DVD-Video)
Disc region: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8
Volume name: NEW5
Video standard: NTSC

CSS (Content Scramble System) protection not found.
RC (Region Code) protection not found.
RCE (Region Code Enhancement) protection not found.
APS (Analog Protection System) protection not found.
UOPs (User Operation Prohibitions) protection is removed.

Invalid CELLs, VOBUs protection is removed.
Invalid PTTs, PGCIs, PGCs, TMAPs protection not found.
Fake vts protection not found.
Bad sector protection not found.
Structure protection (ARccOS, RipGuard, etc.) not found.

PathPlayer is enabled!
Unplayable cell (vts:2 title pgc:2 cell:1) is removed.
Unplayable cell (vts:4 title pgc:2 cell:1) is removed.
2 unplayable cells are removed.

full disc copy/play is supported

[dellsam34]

Absolutely, they wouldn't have access to the master if they are doing this illegally so they have to create their own master stamp from a ripped image or a burned disc.