Trying to self-teach using Hybrid to deinterlace and failing. Help?

[nobodyhome]

I'm trying to teach myself to move beyond just basic settings in HandBreak and Avidemux to get better encodes so I thought I'd try deinterlacing a video as a learning experience, but I think I've hit a wall. Online searches only seem to confuse me in different directions. I'm sure this has been asked am million times, if the search results are an indicator, but nothing seems to work quite right...

I've tried so many different settings that I've forgotten what worked better than the others. I think treating the clips as telecine worked well, but the video only looked good wit the bob filter except 60 fps is way too much. I'm so confused at this point. I used Hybrid and every time I used yadif, bwdif, or QTGMC (even when I overwrote the input scan to telecine and used it in TIVTC under deinterlacer) the horizontal movement in clip1 chunked. When I used previously mentioned deinterlacer on clip2 I had broken lines on the zoom-in part. If at all possible I'd like to get smooth-ish pans, unbroken lines on the zoom-ins, and removing residual interlacing lines on the flashes.

I am trying, but I've lost the thread and would really appreciate some help.

Here are links to the clips if anybody want to stab at them:
https://mega.nz/folder/zyYGWTyB#0ynPxdIVuTyiMb6ocYPejg

I don't want somebody to just fix it for me and upload the files. Please explain things to me and I'll do my best to understand. I'd like to learn what's with the video, what settings to use, and why those settings work. I've read about 3:2 pulldowns, blending, interlacing, and for some reason I get more and more confused.

Thank you for any advice on the newbie's venture outside of Handbrake.

[Sharc]

Your clip1 is telecined, so you have to IVTC (InverseTelecine) it, rather than deinterlace.

Avisynth script for IVTC, returning 23.976 fps progressive frames:

LWLibavVideoSource("clip1.mkv")
TFM().TDecimate()

Or in Hybrid (using Vapoursynth):

[Attachment 88598 - Click to enlarge]

(For using Hybrid successfully a basic understanding of video formats, Avisynth or Vapoursynth is very helpful/a must).

[Alwyn]

I'd be interested to see what comes out of Hybrid because the stock AVISynth TFM/TDecimate on "clip 1" is giving awful wavy tree tops.

[Sharc]

I'd be interested to see what comes out of Hybrid because the stock AVISynth TFM/TDecimate on "clip 1" is giving awful wavy tree tops.

The attachment in post 2 is from Hybrid. The wavy tree tops are baked into the source. Easily seen by inspecting the fields.

P.S. Both these .mkv are not without doubt (?). I wonder how these have been created/ripped ....

[Alwyn]

Fair enough. The original is definitely nicer/smoother to look at on VLC Player with VLC's default deinterlacing and no other processing.

[Selur]

a few side notes:

• When using Hybrid, overwrite the scan type to 'telecine', to let Hybrid know that the content is telecine and Filtering->(De-)Interlace/Telecine->TIVTC Settings->TGM->Advanced->Chroma should be enabled.
• the colors of those files seem wrong to me (more than just tv vs pc scale)

I wonder how these have been created/ripped ....

Yes, the wavy trees really seem strange,..


Cu Selur

Ps.: playing around https://pastebin.com/8At6GW9N