Mkv format files. What format should I change them to before burning?

[cholla]

I did some searching about MakeMKV & the error is normal for some users.
It seems the backup will complete & work OK.
I only use MakeMKV once in a while normally as I have other paid software to do what I want to for DVDs.
This is just a way to do it with all freeware.
As simple as possible.

So far I have not had any problems with MakeMKV having Audio from a rip.
I need to order me some DVD DL discs but I rarely use them so I have not been in a hurry to get more.
I believe I remembered the ImgBurn procedure well enough for setting the layer break.

[zipsick]

What paid software does you like? One that is easy and helpful maybe? I am getting someone to check remotely into my computer today to see what’s going on with the sound on my computer. Tried too many times with different programs each time resulting in backups with no sound. Must be my computer though I get sound in all other circumstances. Puzzling.
Also what discs do you use? I read the verbatim ones I listed were really good.,are there better ones? Thanks for any thoughts you might send my way again.

[cholla]

I use DVDFab but I bought it long ago when it was called DVDFab Platinum lifetime license.
I was like their "All in One" or whatever they call it now.
When they went to a modular software where you have to purchase licenses for each module.
DVDFab Platinum was stripped to DVD Copy & DVD Ripper.
I always felt cheated by this but I already have their software so I use it.
I also have the paid version of DVDFab Passkey both DVD & Blueray.
It has ripping capabilities also but only rips to Full movie.
I would not purchase DVDFab now.
I would use the free after trial versions they offer.

I also have Slysoft AnyDVD HD but the company is out of business.
At least that's the story line.
It almost immediately became redfox software.
This made all the lifetime versions sold by slysoft no longer updated.
Those that bought a lifetime license got cheated by this.
redfox kept the exact same name for their software.
So this was a crooked scam to get out of honoring the lifetime licenses.
I believe redfox is now out of business but I have not checked for some time.

Clone DVD2 by elaboratebytes(ELBY) is also good software but it was also sold by slysoft & then redfox.
It has to be used with a decrypter for commercial DVDs .
It works with Passkey & AnyDVD HD (which although old still works with most DVDs).

My recommendation would be rip to full movie with Passkey (the free version after trial called Passkey Lite).
Then write(burn) with ImgBurn.
If you are writing to a SL DVD then compress with DVDShrink & then write with ImgBurn using "Build mode".
I use Verbatim SL DVD blanks for most movie copies.
The compressed movies look good enough to me.

You wanted the full uncompressed movie so you need DL DVD blanks.
Verbatims have been good for this in the past but it has been a long time since I purchased any so I will let someone else comment on how they now are.

[cholla]

I have been doing some testing with MakeMKV backup.
If I use an IDE optical drive internal or external the backup.iso fails or will not open with various software like VLC media player.
On my SATA optical drives both internal & external the backup.iso works correctly.
Both drives are LG.
In the MakeMKV GUI this come up for the drives that work.

LibreDrive Information
Status: Enabled
Drive platform: MT1939
Firmware type: Original (unpatched)
Firmware version: 1.03
DVD all regions: Yes
BD raw data read: Yes
BD raw metadata read: Partial
Unrestricted read speed: Yes

This is the internal drive Information in MakeMKV:

Drive Information
OS device name: D:
Manufacturer: HL-DT-ST
Product: BD-RE WH14NS40
Revision: 1.03
Serial number: K9LD6GD0625
Firmware date: 2114-03-26 11:05
Bus encryption flags: 17

The other LG drive is similar but a later firmware flashed version .
WH16NS40
If you do not get the LibreDrive Information I do not believe the backup.iso will work.

[jagabo]

Check your A/V files with MediaInfo to see if there is audio and what type. It's likely you files do have audio but your player can't deal with it.

[zipsick]

The Iso Plays fine now and with sound now using AVC Media Player. So excited! Thanks! Should I try to Burn it now or is there something else I need to do? Also, The Burner I just bought comes with the Cyberlink software Powerlink14, Powerlink Director Le and Power2Go 8. Should I download them or are they junk? Thanks if you know anything about them.

[zipsick]

oh. just checked its a DVD mpeg2.a2d filew. is this the right format to burn in or do i change it to a better format?

[cholla]

@zipsick
Do you mean VLC Media Player ?
The .ISO is what you need to burn(write) with ImgBurn.
Refer to my post in this topic #22.

The DVD mpeg2 is correct for DVD.
What I do not know about is the ".a2d filew" file extension.
Where did you get this information?

If you can open the .ISO as Alwyn instructed it should have .bup , .ifo , & .vob files inside.

[cholla]

Cyberlink software Powerlink14, Powerlink Director Le and Power2Go 8. Should I download them or are they junk? Thanks if you know anything about them.

I believe you will find they are all trial software or crippled after 30 days or so software.
That is what usually comes with a "burner"(optical drive).

[zipsick]

I will check with Pioneer if the software is just a trial version on the software. That is disappointing.
About the a2d part of the file. When I went to properties on the iso and checked the file type it said that. It’s a DVD mpeg2.a2d file.
How do I check if it has a .bup , .ifo , & .vob files inside? I did not see this listed in the properties page on the iOS.

[cholla]

This is the contents of the VIDEO-TS folder from the MakeMKV backup.ISO.
Mounted in Virtual Clone Drive.

[Attachment 85903 - Click to enlarge]

This is the information from MediaInfo from the VTS_03_1.VOB from the backup.ISO.
A .vob from your MakeMKV .iso should be similar but definitely not exactly like this.

General
Complete name : J:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_03_1.VOB
Format : MPEG-PS
File size : 1 024 MiB
Duration : 24 min 38 s
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 5 811 kb/s

Video
ID : 224 (0xE0)
Format : MPEG Video
Format version : Version 2
Format profile : Main@Main
Format settings : CustomMatrix / BVOP
Format settings, BVOP : Yes
Format settings, Matrix : Custom
Format settings, GOP : Variable
Duration : 24 min 38 s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 4 159 kb/s
Maximum bit rate : 9 800 kb/s
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 29.970 (30000/1001) FPS
Standard : NTSC
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.402
Stream size : 733 MiB (72%)

Audio #1
ID : 189 (0xBD)-128 (0x80)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Commercial name : Dolby Digital
Muxing mode : DVD-Video
Duration : 24 min 38 s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 448 kb/s
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel layout : L R C LFE Ls Rs
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 78.9 MiB (8%)
Service kind : Complete Main

Audio #2
ID : 189 (0xBD)-129 (0x81)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Commercial name : Dolby Digital
Muxing mode : DVD-Video
Duration : 24 min 38 s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 448 kb/s
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel layout : L R C LFE Ls Rs
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 78.9 MiB (8%)
Service kind : Complete Main

Audio #3
ID : 189 (0xBD)-130 (0x82)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Commercial name : Dolby Digital
Muxing mode : DVD-Video
Duration : 24 min 38 s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 448 kb/s
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel layout : L R C LFE Ls Rs
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 78.9 MiB (8%)
Service kind : Complete Main

Audio #4
ID : 189 (0xBD)-131 (0x83)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Commercial name : Dolby Digital
Format settings : Dolby Surround
Muxing mode : DVD-Video
Duration : 24 min 38 s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 192 kb/s
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel layout : L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 33.8 MiB (3%)
Service kind : Complete Main

Text
ID : 224 (0xE0)-CC3
Format : EIA-608
Muxing mode, more info : Muxed in Video #1
Duration : 24 min 38 s
Start time (commands) : 26 s 685 ms
Start time : 27 s 185 ms
Bit rate mode : Constant
Stream size : 0.00 Byte (0%)
Count of frames before first event : 685
Type of the first event : PopOn

Menu
Format : DVD-Video

[cholla]

About the a2d part of the file. When I went to properties on the iso and checked the file type it said that. It’s a DVD mpeg2.a2d file.
How do I check if it has a .bup , .ifo , & .vob files inside? I did not see this listed in the properties page on the iOS.

I have Windows 7 & I have to open an .iSO file differently than Alwyn instructed in post #28.

You are using Windows 11 & Alwyn's instructions are supposed to work for that OS.

[noemi7]

oh. just checked its a DVD mpeg2.a2d filew. is this the right format to burn in or do i change it to a better format?

You have a problem with understanding the basics, and was already written. Try to:

* Check if you are able to copy VIDEO_TS folder from your DVD to your hard disk. Just use Windows Explorer or any other file manager to do it. Unless you may copy it then it means the DVD is protected, and you need a prog which can decrypt it. I don't know which prog may work.

* When using a decrypter select, if there is such option, a backup copy of the DVD. Don't convert DVD to mpeg or other containers as then you will need to change it once again to proper DVD structure, containing vob, ifo, and bup files, otherwise your standalone player won't recognize the disc. Also, when you convert to mpeg or whatever, you lose menu(s), and chapters.

* Burn copied VIDEO_TS in DVD mode.

[zipsick]

Can we go back a bit here? You guys have lost me. I used Makemkv and downloaded a DVD and got an IOS file. When I open it in Properties it say's
Type of FileVD Project (.a2d) Then Next to the name of the File it says mpeg2.a2d
I can play this file using VLC Media Player with sound perfectly. Can I simply now burn this file to a blank DL disc and see if it works or are there more steps I have to take first?
Thank you so much for all your patience!

[cholla]

Can we go back a bit here? You guys have lost me. I used Makemkv and downloaded a DVD and got an IOS file. When I open it in Properties it say's
Type of FileVD Project (.a2d) Then Next to the name of the File it says mpeg2.a2d
I can play this file using VLC Media Player with sound perfectly. Can I simply now burn this file to a blank DL disc and see if it works or are there more steps I have to take first?
Thank you so much for all your patience!

On my OS Properties says: Type of file: ISO file (.iso).
I suspect the mpeg2.a2d is the Open with:.
I believe that some how AVStoDVD renamed the Open with to this.
So it only makes a difference if you double click to try to open this file.
Is is an ISO file.

I understand what you mean by downloaded but the correct term is read or ripped the DVD.
This will help others better understand.

Open this .iSO in ImgBurn & write(burn) it to a blank DL DVD.
I used write because this is the correct mode to use in ImgBurn.
If you are using EZ-Mode Picker select "Write image file to disc".

Remember Imgburn will ask for a layer break.
Choose the best colored star if there is one.
The layer break is where the dual layer is split.
ImgBrrn may ask twice for your selection.

[zipsick]

Another quick question I just thought about. When I first open makemkv and insert a disk to my Writer Under Info on my Makemkv page I get this display. See Attachment. It mentions LibreDrive Information. It says possible but not yet enabled. Is this important? if so why and how do I enable it? Thanks for any info on this! Thanks!

[davexnet]

a2d (should be) the AVStoDVD project file. If you click on it, it should open the program.
It contains no video or audio, it's very small, typically 4 - 5k bytes for a simple project with 1 title

[cholla]

I did not enable LibreDrive it was auto detected for the two SATA LG optical drives I tested MakeMKV with.
The 4 IDE optical drives that ripped a corrupt .ISO the LibreDrive information did not display.
I assumed that none of the IDE drives had it.
None of the corrupt ,ISOs would open in VLC Media Player.
I beleive since the .ISO you have does it should burn OK.

I have not looked into it but I believe it would require a firmware flash of your optical drive to enable this.
If you are not experienced in flashing a drives firmware you should not do this.
If done incorrectly it can "brick your drive".
In other words permanantly destroy it.

[cholla]

a2d (should be) the AVStoDVD project file. If you click on it, it should open the program.
It contains no video or audio, it's very small, typically 4 - 5k bytes for a simple project with 1 title

That is what I thought.
I beleive somehow this was applied to the .ISO Open With by AVStoDVD.
When zipsick was using it.

[zipsick]

Ok You are scaring me! You say it would require a firmware flash of my optical drive…. I don’t know what would need this and why? I am not experienced and don’t know what flashing a drives firmware and definitely won’t try this! If this is something you think I need I might be able to get someone with great computer knowledge to do it for me. Good night

[cholla]

@ zipsick.
I believe you need to try to do a burn with ImgBurn using the .ISO you ripped with MakeMKV.
The fact that you can open & watch it with VLC is a good indication this .ISO is OK.

If your PIONEER:BD-RW BDR-XS07U is ripping good .ISOs then I would not be concerned with LibreDrive.
If it is ever required by a software you need to use then you might consider having the drive's firmware flashed.
It also may already have the latest firmware & LibreDrive won't work on your drive.
Meaning it is not a feature your drive has
MakeMKV only believes it should have it because of the type drive it is.

So time for a test burn.
If you check the :Test Mode box in ImgBurn it won't write to your DVD DL.
If the test works then uncheck the box & burn a DVD.

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This is how the Properties from an .ISO looks on my OS.

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[zipsick]

Ok. Trying it. Got a couple messages when trying it. Sending Screenshots of them. Hit yes to them and continued burn. Not sure what I will get.

[cholla]

The first one is telling you that the .iso is small enough to fit on a SL DVD.
It might be.
What is the size of the .ISO ?
The second is telling you that it can't create a correct second layer because of the .ISO size.
That it only needs one layer.
The third is telling you if you split the .ISO into 2 layers anyway it may not read on your DVD player.

If you look at the .ISO in the Properties I posted it is 6.81 GB.

Take a look at your DVD size by loading the commercial DVD.
What size does it show?

I checked the commercial DVD I used for the MakeMKV backup.iso.
The DVD matches the size of the backup.iso.

In your post #46 MakeMKV shows this information:

Disc Information
Label: PIRATES_OF_THE_CARIB8EAN
Timestamp: 2003-10-09 12:50:13
Protection: CSS/CPPM
Data capacity; 6.57 Gb
Disc type: DVD-ROM
Disc size: 120mm
Maximum read rate: 10.08 Mbps [lx]

It shows 6.57 Gb.
That should be the size of your backup.iso

[Alwyn]

Just did a test run here.

Ripped a DVD with MakeMKV using "Backup" mode, which generated an .ISO file. That ISO file played OK with sound in VLC Player (RC> "Play with VLS Media Player")

Opened IMGBurn, chose "Write ISO to disk" (or Mode>Ezimode Picker>Write ISO to disk).

Selected the ISO file

Popped in a DL DVD

Set the burn speed to x2 (I always used slow burn speeds)

Clicked the burning icon: because my ISO was too big for a single layer, the Dual Layer-Break table popped up: I chose the only "good" break point, then clicked OK

IMGBurn burned the DVD in 35 minutes.

DVD played flawlessly in by DVD player.

[cholla]

@ Alwyn,
Thanks for doing a DL test.
I'm out of DLs right now & I need to order some.
Your test ran as I would expect.

Is the backup ISO the same size as the DVD you ripped it from ?
The one I ripped is the same size as the DVD.

It appears the backup ISO zipsick created was not the same size as the DVD he ripped.
If it was ImgBurn would not have given the warnings he posted.

[Alwyn]

Is the backup ISO the same size as the DVD you ripped it from ?

Precisely the same, to the byte.

[zipsick]

Yeah. The burn did not go well. I am starting over. Now I understand what I need to do. I just have a real mess going on my computer with all my trials. I spent some time deleting almost everything and am going to start over making some back up DVD's. So I made 2 new backups with Makemkv. One of The Secrets of Roan Inish and the other of The Pirates of Caribbean. This time though I don't remember the file type outcomes being the same as the first time I backed them up. This time The File type are Disk Image Files and I remember the first time they were mkv files. So what is the difference between mkv files and Disc Image Files and why did I get different backup files this time? please answer this.
Now I am supposed to burn in the mpeg2 format. AVStoDVD does not recognize The disc to
o image format to convert the format to mpeg2 for me. Can I set makemkv to backup my DVDs in a format that AVStoDVD will recognize or recommend another free converting program that will?

[zipsick]

I might have answered my own question on getting Makemkv to backup with a mkv File. I read a
Its help File. I am trying it now. Instead of just loading a dvd and hitting back up I instead choose to open a disc and choose all files then start the process. Now it says saving as a mkv file. So I think this time it will be fine and maybe then AVStoDVD will convert it to a mpeg2 so I can burn it and everything will be great! Wish me luck!

[cholla]

@zipsick,
I do not know how to explain what you need to do better than I did in my post#22.
MakeMKV backup will create an .ISO file that is a Disk Image file.
An .ISO file is an exact image of the disk.
Then you Write this .ISO with ImgBurn to a DVD DL.

Check the size of your commercial DVD by right clicking on the optical drive it is in.
And selecting Properties.
This will be in Windows Explorer,
It should be the same size as the .ISO.
You do not need to use AVStoDVD at all.

A .mkv is a container for video file format.
Like a .mp4,
Neither are image files & do not work the same way.

[cholla]

Instead of just loading a dvd and hitting back up I instead choose to open a disc and choose all files then start the process. Now it says saving as a mkv file.

When you get the .mkv file from this process.
Open it with VLC Media Player.
You will not have a Menu like your original Menu.
AVStoDVD can create it's own menu but it is much different than an original DVD menu.
I have never tried AVStoDVD trying to keep all the movie trailers.
So I'm not sure what that does.
Don't get me wrong I believe AVStoDVD is a good program.
I have used it many times.
It is just not the program for what you are trying to do.

This is what you wrote you want to do:

I want my burned DVD to be just like the original DVD. to have all the title. Everything that is in the original DVD I want In the DVD I burn. Including menus.
When I do burn a DVD I am going to use a Verbatim DVD+r Dual Layer Printable Recordable Disc, 8.5 Gb, 8X, Data life with two AZO™ recording layers on a single-sided disc.