MPC-HC playing DVD's at 60FPS instead of 29.970FPS

[killerteengohan]

For some reason the clsid2 forked MPC-HC media players are playing my DVD's back at 60fps. MPV seems to do the same thing. It's as if modern players have changed how they handle DVD video.

I can get the clsid2 MPC-HC to play them at 29.970fps if I disable the deinterlacing mode in the internal LAV video decoder options. It doesn't deinterlace anything anymore though and there's artifacts all over the video. The software deinterlacing setting doesn't seem to do anything at all no matter what I change it to.

The old 2011 MPC-HC from before it was forked (v1.5.3.3819), which I have always used seems to be fine. Not only does it playback without combing/interlace artifacts but it actually plays back at 29.970fps.

Is there a setting or something else I'm missing? I would like it to play DVD's back at 29.970fps, and not have those interlace/combing artifacts in the video, similar to how the older player does.

[killerteengohan]

This is the current settings.

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[jagabo]

Some of the renders have an option for double frame rate deinterlacing. For example View -> Options -> Playback -> Output -> DirectShow Video -> MPC Video Renderer -> Settings -> Double The Frame Rate When Deinterlacing:


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But you usually want to double the frame rate for interlaced video to get smooth motion.

[killerteengohan]

Some of the renders have an option for double frame rate deinterlacing. For example View -> Options -> Playback -> Output -> DirectShow Video -> MPC Video Renderer -> Settings -> Double The Frame Rate When Deinterlacing:


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But you usually want to double the frame rate for interlaced video to get smooth motion.

Thanks for the tip.

I don't have the "MPC Video Renderer" options you showed and it isn't even in the selectable list. I did however get it to play at 29.970fps in the LAV settings by turning off the hardware acceleration and leaving the deinterlacing mode to auto. I was setting the deinterlacing mode to disabled before, which is why the software deinterlacer was having no effect. I thought it was tied with hardware settings.

Once I did that then the software deinterlacer began to work and this played back at 29.970fps as I wanted. However now I have a new issue. The anime I am trying to watch, when the entire screen pans in any direction, it bounces instead of smoothly slides along. In the old media player, it just had blended frames or ghosting when playing back, but it was smooth and didn't bounce. Usually anime is 23.976fps and if encoded to 29.970fps you get this same bouncing issue during panning. This appears to be a hybrid where it has 29.970fps CGI and 23.976fps hand drawn animation, so the players pick 29.970fps.

What I don't get though is why the old player it doesn't bounce, and plays back at 29.970fps fine, but the frames look blended/ghosted; Almost as if you were using Hybrid=3 tdecimate in avisynth, yet the new player does bounce and is only smooth at 60fps. Is there nothing to change to make it behave more like the older player in this particular situation?

Another peculiar thing is when the older player plays things at 23.976fps, the new player goes into the mid 30's usually around 36fps for things unless I change the settings like before to get it to 29.970fps. Then it goes down to 23.976fps. I have no idea why its picking 36fps for 23.976fps kind of material, but its got leftover interlace/combing artifacts until I turn hardware acceleration back off and that makes it 23.976fps.

[killerteengohan]

I guess I'll just use the old player for interlaced DVD's, and the new ones for everything else. That seems to be the easiest solution.