I still use obsolete analog/digital SD and 1080i cameras in 2024

[Joscraft_05]

Yeah not just for capturing and digitizing purposes but i really still use my Hi8 camera, a high end CCD-TRV95E from 1998), Digital 8 TRV730E and my FX1E HDV camera wich i really love HDV 1080i quality with 3CCD. From all i especially use my Hi8 camera because i like too much the analog recordings with the overscan, the datestamp in the image and glitches too but i don't get glitches at all because i capture my analog videos very good with good cables and a Panasonic DMR ES10 with it's TBC.

Tbh i watch obsolete SD cameras captured well with a quality capture device, a TBC if they are analog videos and firewire for DV, deinterlaced with QTGMC and resized to 1440x1080 in my smartphone and they look very good, i even watch them "good" in my 50" TV from a distance.

Also i have my disastrous Super VHS-C Panasonic camera i bought thinking it would be good to have a S VHS-C camera (i was stupid) and of course the tape mechanism of the camera in a bad condition and after fixing the mechanism it still works bad sometimes.

[Barrythecrab]

Disastrous! Great description.
I have a new in the box JVC camcorder I’ve barely touched but I’m well aware of the dangers of VHS-c.
But yes I recently used my CanonHV30 HDV for a shoot as a 3rd camera. I did not use it well. Could have been better but it’s hard to recall the proper settings of so many camcorders cameras and technocrap. I still love the tape process.

[Joscraft_05]

Disastrous! Great description.
I have a new in the box JVC camcorder I’ve barely touched but I’m well aware of the dangers of VHS-c.
But yes I recently used my CanonHV30 HDV for a shoot as a 3rd camera. I did not use it well. Could have been better but it’s hard to recall the proper settings of so many camcorders cameras and technocrap. I still love the tape process.

Yes i shouldn't have bought a VHS-C camera, the problems i had with it was a slap in my face to see the reality. Even back in the 90s and 2000s it was a VERY BAD idea buying a VHS-C camcorder.

However i'm really happy with my Hi8 TRV95E camera with my Panasonic DMR ES10 dvd recorder and it's TBC i get a very good quality and stable Hi8 and Video8 video.

I'm reserving my FX1E HDV camera for special moments in my life like marriages and more things.

With my Digital 8 megapixel TRV730E is sad because it got a big green dot noticeable in low light and indoor environments, however sometimes it doesn't appear.

[aedipuss]

for canon hdv and dslr cams i use "cinestyle" settings and LUTs.

[lordsmurf]

Hi8 really was the best of analog home recording medium. (Too bad we chose VHS-C, "to work with our VCR".)

[timtape]

...Yes I shouldn't have bought a VHS-C camera, the problems i had with it was a slap in my face to see the reality. Even back in the 90s and 2000s it was a VERY BAD idea buying a VHS-C camcorder...

I've digitised many customer VHSC tapes without a problem. What problems did you have with the format?

[Joscraft_05]

...Yes I shouldn't have bought a VHS-C camera, the problems i had with it was a slap in my face to see the reality. Even back in the 90s and 2000s it was a VERY BAD idea buying a VHS-C camcorder...

I've digitised many customer VHSC tapes without a problem. What problems did you have with the format?

It was the camcorder I bought a Super VHS-C camera, all VHS-C and Super VHS-C cameras are broken and those didn’t last so in my case the tape compartiment was “broken” with mechanism and reels not working properly and I was getting my brand new super vhs-c tape entirely destroyed by the camera eating the tape all the time.

However I managed to fix the issue with isopropyl alcohol and searching what mechanism or reel was causing the problem and now it works and the camera doesn’t eat my tapes, but sometimes it still refuses to work and the camera shuts off so I just remove the tape, turn on the camera then insert the tape again and it works fine.

Wow is worse than I imagine, I feel bad for everyone and those people that now need to transfer his vhs-c tapes from his parents… At least VHS-C adapters exist but Super VHS VCRs quite expensive.

[lordsmurf]

...Yes I shouldn't have bought a VHS-C camera, the problems i had with it was a slap in my face to see the reality. Even back in the 90s and 2000s it was a VERY BAD idea buying a VHS-C camcorder...

I've digitised many customer VHSC tapes without a problem. What problems did you have with the format?

Too much flutter in the tape path -- which is mostly due to the cheaper build quality of the camcorders (and makes the usage/recording process that much more obnoxious).

I still hate that we picked the wrong pony, but no backsies!

[Joscraft_05]

...Yes I shouldn't have bought a VHS-C camera, the problems i had with it was a slap in my face to see the reality. Even back in the 90s and 2000s it was a VERY BAD idea buying a VHS-C camcorder...

I've digitised many customer VHSC tapes without a problem. What problems did you have with the format?

Too much flutter in the tape path -- which is mostly due to the cheaper build quality of the camcorders (and makes the usage/recording process that much more obnoxious).

I still hate that we picked the wrong pony, but no backsies!

I don’t have a problem I don’t use that camera anymore I use now my Hi8 CCD TRV95E with my DMR ES10 as TBC.

I was considering to sold my super vhs-c camera but I will keep it as a “working” unit for collection and if somebody in my family has vhs-c tapes because my Sanyo low end 2 heads mono VCR is trash, damaged and I don’t have a vhs-c adapter and since I managed to fix my super vhs-c camera I can play tapes in there but carefully because sometimes it still refuses to work… Also my super vhs-c camera shuts down and eject the tape if the tape as a minimal damage like a scratch.

What a hell vhs-c and super vhs-c are… They are horrible in any means no matter if is a lower end one or a higher end one with stereo mic and more manual control, all VHS-C cameras complete trash.

[timtape]

...Yes I shouldn't have bought a VHS-C camera, the problems i had with it was a slap in my face to see the reality. Even back in the 90s and 2000s it was a VERY BAD idea buying a VHS-C camcorder...

I've digitised many customer VHSC tapes without a problem. What problems did you have with the format?

Too much flutter in the tape path,,,

What exactly do you mean by flutter? How does it affect picture, and audio, both linear and HiFi? Video and audio examples would probably help.

[timtape]

...What a hell vhs-c and super vhs-c are… They are horrible in any means no matter if is a lower end one or a higher end one with stereo mic and more manual control, all VHS-C cameras complete trash.

When you used them did you read and follow the camcorder manufacturer's instructions?

[Joscraft_05]

...What a hell vhs-c and super vhs-c are… They are horrible in any means no matter if is a lower end one or a higher end one with stereo mic and more manual control, all VHS-C cameras complete trash.

When you used them did you read and follow the camcorder manufacturer's instructions?

What do you mean? I’m saying that my Super VHS-C Panasonic camera was half broken but I managed to fix the reels and mechanism in that thing so now I can play tapes normally without strange noises and without the tape getting eaten by the camera, but sometimes it still refuses to work and the camera ejects the tape if the tape have any minimal scratch in it.

[timtape]

...What a hell vhs-c and super vhs-c are… They are horrible in any means no matter if is a lower end one or a higher end one with stereo mic and more manual control, all VHS-C cameras complete trash.

When you used them did you read and follow the camcorder manufacturer's instructions?

What do you mean? I’m saying that my Super VHS-C Panasonic camera was half broken but I managed to fix the reels and mechanism in that thing so now I can play tapes normally without strange noises and without the tape getting eaten by the camera, but sometimes it still refuses to work and the camera ejects the tape if the tape have any minimal scratch in it.

You went much further saying, " What a hell vhs-c and super vhs-c are… They are horrible in any means no matter if is a lower end one or a higher end one with stereo mic and more manual control, all VHS-C cameras complete trash."

[Joscraft_05]

...What a hell vhs-c and super vhs-c are… They are horrible in any means no matter if is a lower end one or a higher end one with stereo mic and more manual control, all VHS-C cameras complete trash.

When you used them did you read and follow the camcorder manufacturer's instructions?

What do you mean? I’m saying that my Super VHS-C Panasonic camera was half broken but I managed to fix the reels and mechanism in that thing so now I can play tapes normally without strange noises and without the tape getting eaten by the camera, but sometimes it still refuses to work and the camera ejects the tape if the tape have any minimal scratch in it.

You went much further saying, " What a hell vhs-c and super vhs-c are… They are horrible in any means no matter if is a lower end one or a higher end one with stereo mic and more manual control, all VHS-C cameras complete trash."

Because VHS-C cameras aren't that? They are horrible cameras and that format is horrible. VHS-C should have never existed but the main reason for this was being able to make smaller VHS cameras and insert your VHS-C tape onto your VCR, wich in most cases those adapters are also unstable and can break your tape and get eaten.