Elementary Streams for Bluray Author?

[PaulM2]

Hi guys

I used to do create DVDs by converting m2v to video and AC3 to audio and authoring in dvdlabpro, but now I have a bluray drive on the way, and I'm confused about which elementary FHD file I can get without having to re-encode the file when creating the disk. At the moment I only know TMPGENC Authoring but the MP4 files are always re-encoded and take hours to convert. Can you recommend another program without re-encoding?

[poisondeathray]

Is this for SD blu ray ? You have a SD m2v for the DVD and DVDLabPro . Where does the MP4 come from ?

The MP4 would only pass through if it was already BD compliant. If it used non-compliant encoding settings for BD, it needs to be re-encoded. That will happen with every BD authoring program - a non compliant source will get rejected

[PaulM2]

Is this for SD blu ray ? You have a SD m2v for the DVD and DVDLabPro . Where does the MP4 come from ?

The MP4 would only pass through if it was already BD compliant. If it used non-compliant encoding settings for BD, it needs to be re-encoded. That will happen with every BD authoring program - a non compliant source will get rejected

No, it's 1440x1080p video mp4 file, but 40mbps bitrate

[poisondeathray]

No, it's 1440x1080p video mp4 file, but 40mbps bitrate

Where is the mp4 from ? e.g. camera etc..

What does mediainfo (view=>text) say about the file ?

There are a bunch of rules you have to follow for BD compliant streams, otherwise you don't get passthrough and it needs to be re-encoded for compliance

For example if the MP4 didn't use VBV buffer settings, it might cause buffering issues such as over/under flows. This would be rejected

1440x1080 for BD primary stream is only supported as 16:9 . A "square pixel" 4:3 is not supported and would need to be pillarboxed

[PaulM2]

No, it's 1440x1080p video mp4 file, but 40mbps bitrate

Where is the mp4 from ? e.g. camera etc..

What does mediainfo (view=>text) say about the file ?

There are a bunch of rules you have to follow for BD compliant streams, otherwise you don't get passthrough and it needs to be re-encoded for compliance

For example if the MP4 didn't use VBV buffer settings, it might cause buffering issues such as over/under flows. This would be rejected

1440x1080 for BD primary stream is only supported as 16:9 . A "square pixel" 4:3 is not supported and would need to be pillarboxed

General
Complete name : C:\Users\PRB515\Downloads\01 - Force from the Future.mp4
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : Base Media / Version 2
Codec ID : mp42 (mp42/mp41)
File size : 1.99 GiB
Duration : 21 min 24 s
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 13.3 Mb/s
Frame rate : 29.970 FPS
Encoded date : 2022-11-06 22:26:39 UTC
Tagged date : 2022-11-06 22:27:08 UTC
TIM : 00:00:00:00
TSC : 30000
TSZ : 1001

Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : Main@L4.1
Format settings : CABAC / 4 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, Reference frames : 4 frames
Codec ID : avc1
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
Duration : 21 min 24 s
Bit rate : 13.0 Mb/s
Width : 1 440 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 4:3
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 29.970 (30000/1001) FPS
Standard : NTSC
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.278
Stream size : 1.94 GiB (98%)
Language : English
Encoded date : 2022-11-06 22:26:39 UTC
Tagged date : 2022-11-06 22:26:39 UTC
Color range : Limited
Color primaries : BT.709
Transfer characteristics : BT.709
Matrix coefficients : BT.709
Codec configuration box : avcC

Audio
ID : 2
Format : AAC LC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
Codec ID : mp4a-40-2
Duration : 21 min 24 s
Source duration : 21 min 25 s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 317 kb/s
Maximum bit rate : 386 kb/s
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel layout : L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 46.875 FPS (1024 SPF)
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 48.6 MiB (2%)
Source stream size : 48.6 MiB (2%)
Language : English
Encoded date : 2022-11-06 22:26:39 UTC
Tagged date : 2022-11-06 22:26:39 UTC

[poisondeathray]

It has to be re-encoded for BD compliance

1440x1080 4:3 content needs to be pillarboxed to 1920x1080 for BD primary streams
Progressive 29.97 encoding is not compliant with BD - it needs to be encoded interlaced or mbaff
AAC audio is not compliant - audio needs to be re-encoded
Probably a bunch of other things not shown by mediainfo - such as no VBV settings , GOP length

[Sharc]

Yes, it's far away from BD specs compliance.
FWIW here the video rules
https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=154533

And here the settings for compliant encoding using x264 encoder:
http://web.archive.org/web/20211016213149/http://www.x264bluray.com/home/1080i-p