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    Originally Posted by Lollo
    This clip is progressive.
    But each frame is different (when doublerate deinterlaced). There is major motion at every second frame, but the following frame is also (just) different; but it's certainly not the same. Your GIF shows this. Isn't this video PSF, as per post #18?
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  2. Originally Posted by VHSvideocapture View Post
    Originally Posted by lollo View Post
    Thanks for that .
    Most of my captures are like this
    How should progressive source be handled?
    It should be handled progressive.

    (just make sure that the capture SW does not unintended deinterlace the video)
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    Originally Posted by Alwyn View Post
    Originally Posted by Lollo
    This clip is progressive.
    But each frame is different (when doublerate deinterlaced). There is major motion at every second frame, but the following frame is also (just) different; but it's certainly not the same. Your GIF shows this. Isn't this video PSF, as per post #18?
    https://forum.videohelp.com/threads/413554-Deinterlacing-in-2024/page5#post2735907
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  4. Originally Posted by Alwyn View Post
    But each frame is different (when doublerate deinterlaced). There is major motion at every second frame, but the following frame is also (just) different; but it's certainly not the same. Your GIF shows this. Isn't this video PSF, as per post #18?
    I'm confused I'm going to be adding another clip direct stream copy
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  5. Here is another clip
    VirtualDub direct stream copy
    The colorspace should be correct this time.
    Lagrith codec used, Lagrith does not flag interlacing always shows progressive but I don't think it is.
    https://files.videohelp.com/u/308503/riceD.avi

    Thanks everyone for helping
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  6. The video is progressive (PsF), as before. There is no motion between the even and the odd field. Separating the fields and stepping through the fields gives a pattern like aabbccddeeffgghh..., with motion between the pairs only.

    This is how interlaced would look like. Now you see motion between every field, not just between pairs of fields.
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    Originally Posted by VHSvideocapture View Post
    Here is another clip
    As Sharc already said this is again a "progressive" video, aka PsF.

    You should get familiar with AviSynth and check the fields architecture by yourself. Here a simple script. You load it in VirtualdDub (for example) and step field-by-field analyzing the pattern repetition (aabbccddeeffgghh... in this case, as Sharc explained, meaning "progressive "source).

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    video_org=AviSource("riceD.avi")
    
    # separate fields tff
    video_org_sep_tff=video_org.AssumeTFF().separateFields()
    
    	# to check if progressive or interlaced
    return(video_org_sep_tff)
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  8. As a demo here a comparison of the 2 variants side-by-side, after separating the fields and stepping in slow motion through the fields as per Lollo's instructions.

    Left is your progressive (aka PsF) source. Right is what you would get if your source were interlaced. You see that the progressive (PsF) version has motion with every 2 fields only, while the interlaced variant has motion with every field advancement.
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    Originally Posted by Lollo
    Clip is progressive
    Originally Posted by VHS
    How should progressive source be handled?
    Is this correct?

    "For a progressive or PSF source, don't deinterlace, just encode it as-is into whatever final format you want"?
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