Yeah, but the thing is, I don't need a "broadcast encoder", and also, the PAFF implementation doesn't need to be broadcast quality, either. I'm pretty sure x264 MBAFF isn't broadcast-targeted, if that makes sense.
Would love to organize all of that, but not sure if I have the skills or the outspokenness (maybe?) to. Besides, as I have already mentioned, there already are modified x264 builds out there with PAFF support, and I'm assuming they're not based on Kieran's fork since they're above "core 155" (that's what his fork's "version" is at). The fact that some people were able to successfully somehow squeeze or neatly place PAFF into more recent x264 builds makes me skeptical of the claim that the devs would need something close to "4..5 figures" to put it in there officially. Once again, I will be glad to make not one, but even a few modest donations in the future if they show willingness to fulfill the request, but they probably really won't need anything near the price point you suggested. If anything, they're going to need willingness.Try to raise some action, collect at least 4..5 figures bounty and convince someone to create broadcast PROVEN PAFF for x264, soon there will be need to create interlace support for x265 (h.265 formally is progressive but left some backdoor for interlaced content) so perhaps this can be extended on both.
I will be posting links to a few files encoded with the modified x264 builds for y'all to take a look at shortly.
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Link 1: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1G9_AjpyLyA--raQe3pn0h21cCura8dOx/view?usp=drive_link
MediaInfo:Code:Video ID : 1 Format : AVC Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec Format profile : High 4:2:2@L4.1 Format settings, CABAC : Yes Format settings, RefFrames : 3 frames Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC Duration : 4 min 34 s Bit rate mode : Constant Bit rate : 25.9 Mb/s / 25.9 Mb/s Width : 1 920 pixels Height : 1 080 pixels Display aspect ratio : 16:9 Frame rate mode : Variable Frame rate : 59.940 (59940/1000) FPS Original frame rate : 29.970 (30000/1001) FPS Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:2 Bit depth : 8 bits Scan type : Interlaced Scan type, store method : Separated fields Scan order : Top Field First Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.208 Stream size : 840 MiB (84%) Writing library : x264 core 142 Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=3 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=hex / subme=4 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=0 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=0 / threads=12 / lookahead_threads=3 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=tff / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=0 / keyint=24 / keyint_min=2 / scenecut=0 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=20 / rc=cbr / mbtree=1 / bitrate=25899 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / vbv_maxrate=25899 / vbv_bufsize=12950 / nal_hrd=none / filler=0 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00 Default : Yes Forced : No Color range : Limited Color primaries : BT.709 Transfer characteristics : BT.709 Matrix coefficients : BT.709
Link 2 : https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ayX7amtsCKHr3tKCbdJngdIYbiHnfQdk/view
MediaInfo:Code:Video ID : 1 Format : AVC Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec Format profile : High@L4.1 Format settings : 3 Ref Frames Format settings, CABAC : No Format settings, Reference fra : 3 frames Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC Duration : 26 min 26 s Bit rate mode : Constant Bit rate : 31.2 Mb/s Width : 1 920 pixels Height : 1 080 pixels Display aspect ratio : 16:9 Frame rate mode : Variable Frame rate : 59.940 (59940/1000) FPS Original frame rate : 29.970 (30000/1001) FPS Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 Bit depth : 8 bits Scan type : Interlaced Scan type, store method : Separated fields Scan order : Top Field First Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.251 Stream size : 5.73 GiB (99%) Writing library : x264 core 160 r3000 Encoding settings : cabac=0 / ref=3 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=hex / subme=4 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=0 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=0 / threads=16 / lookahead_threads=4 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=tff / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=0 / keyint=24 / keyint_min=2 / scenecut=0 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=20 / rc=cbr / mbtree=1 / bitrate=31199 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / vbv_maxrate=31199 / vbv_bufsize=15600 / nal_hrd=none / filler=0 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00 Default : Yes Forced : No Color range : Limited Color primaries : BT.709 Transfer characteristics : BT.709 Matrix coefficients : BT.709
Last edited by simon744; 1st Jul 2024 at 12:03.
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Unfortunately, not a single one that I could find. The whole point of posting all these is pointing out that it is not impossible or an extremely hard, pricey task of x264 devs to incorporate PAFF into the encoder, officially. They just won't do it, for some reason...even if it'd make this thing the best H.264 encoder around. Also, those who have already created forks should take care of them instead of letting them as they are, full of problems and errors.
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Broadcast encoder means all customer decoders should work fine with encoded content - this is more about compatibility and testing than quality (but quality can be also provided).
x264 is commonly used in broadcast mezzanines (or x264 customized forks) anyway if you properly set x264 then it should be broadcast compliant.
Well verification if PAFF from Kieran is used by those other PAFF compliant x264 should be quite straightforward - also you can try to promote PAFF patch within regular x264 development process - at least i would contact with x264 developers to get their feedback on this - it should be zero cost from your perspective. If PAFF working patch exist then perhaps it can be combined with official x264 trunk - if not then you may get knowledge why it is not possible.
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