Youtube downloaded videos choppy on Sony BDP-S370

[Garry13]

I have an old 2011 Sony BDP-S370. Great player with analog video, optical ports and SACD in-built which is hard to find these days. Problem is since youtube made changes to its encoder a few years back, the downloaded videos play choppy through USB, it plays for 1-2 seconds, then stops, maybe a frame is displayed again, stops again. If I download an older video it plays perfectly. All videos are mp4 format. I guess it has to do something with vp6 codec that youtube introduced? Any solution to this, maybe editing the header by making a mkv? Or any downloading site that may encode with the right codec? Thanks!

[davexnet]

Do you mean vp9?

[johns0]

I doubt its vp9 since the sony bdp-s370 can't play videos with newer settings built into them such as the mkv structure which has changed.

[october262]

I have an old 2011 Sony BDP-S370. Great player with analog video, optical ports and SACD in-built which is hard to find these days. Problem is since youtube made changes to its encoder a few years back, the downloaded videos play choppy through USB, it plays for 1-2 seconds, then stops, maybe a frame is displayed again, stops again. If I download an older video it plays perfectly. All videos are mp4 format. I guess it has to do something with vp6 codec that youtube introduced? Any solution to this, maybe editing the header by making a mkv? Or any downloading site that may encode with the right codec? Thanks!

try scanning the USB drive and see if there's any corrupt sectors on the drive
and see if windows can repair the USB drive. and according to the manual page 32 & 33 - https://www.manua.ls/sony/bdp-s370/manual?p=33
the USB drive must be formatted as FAT and non partitioned.

[johns0]

I had the same problem playing certain mkv on my bdp-380 and what i did was add these commands to mkvmerge and remux them and they will play.

--engage no_cue_relative_position
--engage no_cue_duration
--disable-track-statistics-tags

Open mkvmerge click on muxing/add command line options and add the lines there and save as default for new jobs.

[Garry13]

Do you mean vp9?

my bad, yes the new one vp9

I doubt its vp9 since the sony bdp-s370 can't play videos with newer settings built into them such as the mkv structure which has changed.

yes I think. But the video does open up and plays for a second or two. For some mp4 videos that use newer settings, the video stays blank but audio plays sometimes. I'll try what other user has recommended neverthless thanks

try scanning the USB drive and see if there's any corrupt sectors on the drive
and see if windows can repair the USB drive. and according to the manual page 32 & 33 - https://www.manua.ls/sony/bdp-s370/manual?p=33
the USB drive must be formatted as FAT and non partitioned.

Just bought its a new USB! Yes FAT32. Thank you.

I had the same problem playing certain mkv on my bdp-380 and what i did was add these commands to mkvmerge and remux them and they will play.

--engage no_cue_relative_position
--engage no_cue_duration
--disable-track-statistics-tags

Open mkvmerge click on muxing/add command line options and add the lines there and save as default for new jobs.

Great! I'll try and get back to you. Thanks!!

[Garry13]

I had the same problem playing certain mkv on my bdp-380 and what i did was add these commands to mkvmerge and remux them and they will play.

--engage no_cue_relative_position
--engage no_cue_duration
--disable-track-statistics-tags

Open mkvmerge click on muxing/add command line options and add the lines there and save as default for new jobs.

Hi John. I was optimistic, but it did not work unfortunately😎.
I can see the video playback working (both on player and OSD) and variable bitrate display changing on the player OSD but the video stays stuck on a single frame. If I stop it and resume it, it again plays for a split second from same frame. Also, checked profile with tsmuxer, its high@3.1, which shouldn’t be an issue.

I’ll update here if I find a solution. Any other suggestions are highly appreciated from members. Thanks.

[johns0]

Post a mediainfo text output here to see if anything looks out of sorts.

[davexnet]

I don't see vp9 listed in the manual for your player.
You'd probably be better off converting to mp4/AVC

[Garry13]

Post a mediainfo text output here to see if anything looks out of sorts.

Hi! I’m adding mediainfo from 2 different videos uploaded in 2023 and 2020 respectively. Also adding small clips how they actually play out on monitor👍.

Here is mediainfo of a video that was uploaded in 2023. This one plays choppy.

Complete name : /Users/mac/Downloads/Metal Gear Solid 3 Snake Eater Remake Gameplay 4K ULTRA HD (PS5_PC_Xbox Series X).mp4
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : Base Media / Version 2
Codec ID : mp42 (isom/mp42)
File size : 22.1 MiB
Duration : 1 min 39 s
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 1 869 kb/s
Encoded date : UTC 2023-10-25 17:48:26
Tagged date : UTC 2023-10-25 17:48:26
gsst : 0
gstd : 99265

Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L3.1
Format settings : CABAC / 3 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, Reference frames : 3 frames
Codec ID : avc1
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
Duration : 1 min 39 s
Bit rate : 1 738 kb/s
Width : 1 280 pixels
Height : 720 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 29.970 (30000/1001) FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.063
Stream size : 20.6 MiB (93%)
Title : ISO Media file produced by Google Inc. Created on: 10/25/2023.
Encoded date : UTC 2023-10-25 17:48:26
Tagged date : UTC 2023-10-25 17:48:26
Color range : Limited
Color primaries : BT.709
Transfer characteristics : BT.709
Matrix coefficients : BT.709
Codec configuration box : avcC

Audio
ID : 2
Format : AAC LC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
Codec ID : mp4a-40-2
Duration : 1 min 39 s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 128 kb/s
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel layout : L R
Sampling rate : 44.1 kHz
Frame rate : 43.066 FPS (1024 SPF)
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 1.51 MiB (7%)
Title : ISO Media file produced by Google Inc. Created on: 10/25/2023.
Language : English
Encoded date : UTC 2023-10-25 17:48:26
Tagged date : UTC 2023-10-25 17:48:2

Link to playback clip: https://files.videohelp.com/u/282676/C64C609A-A474-4F4F-AD0F-7AF79C29286C.MOV 91MB
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Here is mediainfo of a video uploaded in 2020. It plays perfectly.

General
Complete name : /Users/mac/Downloads/GHOST OF TSUSHIMA - Kojiro Duel Boss Fight (Hard Mode) Secret.mp4
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : Base Media / Version 2
Codec ID : mp42 (isom/mp42)
File size : 18.2 MiB
Duration : 3 min 38 s
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 701 kb/s
Encoded date : UTC 2020-07-18 07:08:38
Tagged date : UTC 2020-07-18 07:08:38
gsst : 0
gstd : 218360

Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : Main@L3.1
Format settings : CABAC / 3 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, Reference frames : 3 frames
Codec ID : avc1
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
Duration : 3 min 38 s
Bit rate : 569 kb/s
Width : 1 280 pixels
Height : 720 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 29.970 (29970/1000) FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.021
Stream size : 14.8 MiB (81%)
Title : ISO Media file produced by Google Inc. Created on: 07/18/2020.
Writing library : x264 core 155 r2901 7d0ff22
Encoded date : UTC 2020-07-18 07:08:38
Tagged date : UTC 2020-07-18 07:08:38
Color range : Limited
Color primaries : BT.709
Transfer characteristics : BT.709
Matrix coefficients : BT.709
Codec configuration box : avcC

Audio
ID : 2
Format : AAC LC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
Codec ID : mp4a-40-2
Duration : 3 min 38 s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 128 kb/s
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel layout : L R
Sampling rate : 44.1 kHz
Frame rate : 43.066 FPS (1024 SPF)
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 3.33 MiB (18%)
Title : ISO Media file produced by Google Inc. Created on: 07/18/2020.
Language : English
Encoded date : UTC 2020-07-18 07:08:38
Tagged date : UTC 2020-07-18 07:08:38

Link to playback clip: https://files.videohelp.com/u/282676/28B6A32C-5EA1-4E8C-A4F9-99DED744AAA3.MOV 25MB

Thanks!

[Garry13]

I don't see vp9 listed in the manual for your player.
You'd probably be better off converting to mp4/AVC

Yeah, It’s an ancient player by today’s standards. I’ll leave it here if it doesn’t work out. Re-encoding just kills quality.