Alternative to Hauppauge?

[hannah'sdad]

I have a V2 internal Hauppauge capture card, but am not please with the software. I have an 8mm dedicated video player and many of the videos were of my children when they were much younger. Many were also taken by them. There are times where there may be "gaps" between videos on the same tape resulting in static. Hauppauge does not seem to handle this well and ends up crashing. I have tried any and all combinations of options in the software, but to no avail. I am ready to try something different. Can someone suggest a quality (preferably internal, not USB) capture card that utilizes both RCA and HDMI inputs? And handles the gaps in the recording? I am editing in Adobe Premiere, but that only goes so far when I have to keep starting and stopping due to crashes.

Thanks a lot for anyone's help.

Scott
Allen, TX

[davexnet]

My old Avermedia M780 used to be able the gaps/noise with out issue. Have you tried using
different software with your device?
It shouldn't crash

[Subtitles]

If you want internal, then this card might be good. Only $130 from Amazon, at least it is available considering how long it was available for purchase.
Inputs HDMI, Composite (RCA) etc.
https://www.hauppauge.com/pages/products/data_colossus2.html

[hannah'sdad]

If you want internal, then this card might be good. Only $130 from Amazon, at least it is available considering how long it was available for purchase.
Inputs HDMI, Composite (RCA) etc.
https://www.hauppauge.com/pages/products/data_colossus2.html

So, I was not clear (didn't have it in front of me). But that is the card that I have and the software continues to crash.

With regard to alternate software, I was not aware that that was an option. Does anyone have a recommendation for that (Colossus 2) card? I am willing to give just about anything a try.

Scott

[Subtitles]

I checked your system and it is quite impressive. It doesn't make sense for the software to crash.
I am assuming you have a GPU although it was not listed.
Have you tried Magix Vegas Pro? They have fully functional 30 days trial.

[hannah'sdad]

I checked your system and it is quite impressive. It doesn't make sense for the software to crash.
I am assuming you have a GPU although it was not listed.
Have you tried Magix Vegas Pro? They have fully functional 30 days trial.

Thanks for the compliment. I updated the specs. It has an NVIDIA 3070 card in it (not OCd). I'd like to take credit for it, but I must admit, I have an indulgent wife who has allowed me to purchase some nice camera gear, and what do you do with all those raw files, if you don't have a computer with the horsepower to handle them?

I will look into Magix. I just assumed that Hauppauge had proprietary software for their hardware. I will try it and get back with you all. Much appreciated.

Scott

[Alwyn]

If you have lots of signal breaks in your videos, you may have issues with most capture software, including audio sync problems. Running the video through a stabiliser/signal rebuilder (including dedicated Time Base Correctors) will help. Low cost stabilisation can be achieved by running your video though a Panasonic DVD recorder such as the ES-10, ES-15, which can be bought fairly cheaply. The DVD function doesn't need to be operational. It's just being used as a passthrough to stabilise the video signal.

[Brad]

^ @Alwyn that won't work with the Hauppauge Colossus cards.

I checked your system and it is quite impressive. It doesn't make sense for the software to crash.

The problem isn't the PC build; it's the capture device. It's a known issue with Hauppauge's hardware H.264 encoders and unstable analog tape input.

This video is demoing one of their external "HD PVR" boxes rather than the internal "Colossus" card, but it should be enough to get the idea.

See "glitch" / freezing at 3:50 and then the corrected signal at 7:28.
https://youtu.be/qJKInMUw3A8

[hech54]

BIG hard drive, capture lossless, run the tape(STOP STOPPING THE TAPE/SOFTWARE)....just edit out the dead spots later.
You'd probably be done by now.

[Alwyn]

Hech, read the thread. He's tried that and he gets software stops and starts and crashes. He needs another solution, software and/or hardware.

[Subtitles]

Please take a look at AverMedia GC573 4K internal.
https://www.amazon.com/AVerMedia-GC573-Live-Gamer-4K/dp/B07DHSZC4K
Currently not available on Amazon USA, but available on Amazon Germany (Usually their price goes down to exclude the VAT for non EU countries). The usual sites should have it in the USA
It doesn't have composite inputs but only HDMI. You can buy an HDMI to RCA adapter if you need to use RCA connectors.
There is a cheaper model for HD (1080p)

[hannah'sdad]

Hech, I generally don't respond to comments like this, but this time, I just couldn't help. Your "assumption" that I am clueless and don't know how to operate my equipment is a poor assumption. If you had actually read my comments, YOU would have seen that I already tried what you suggested. Perhaps your next post will be more helpful to the OP.

[hannah'sdad]

Please take a look at AverMedia GC573 4K internal.
https://www.amazon.com/AVerMedia-GC573-Live-Gamer-4K/dp/B07DHSZC4K
Currently not available on Amazon USA, but available on Amazon Germany (Usually their price goes down to exclude the VAT for non EU countries). The usual sites should have it in the USA
It doesn't have composite inputs but only HDMI. You can buy an HDMI to RCA adapter if you need to use RCA connectors.
There is a cheaper model for HD (1080p)

I just ordered it on Amazon in the US. It will be here tomorrow. Hopefully this will work.

To clarify a bit, these are 8mm video tapes taken when my children were much younger (30-35 years ago). Many were taken by my late son who died three years ago in a traffic accident at the age of 29. So, I am trying to capture these tapes on my computer and possibly put them on DVDs before they get lost or damaged.

I appreciate all of the help that you all have provided. We'll see if this new card is the fix. Thanks!

Scott

[Alwyn]

Out of interest, what is the output from the 8mm player? Your current card I assume has analogue (Component?) input via the S-video socket but that one you've ordered only has HDMI sockets.

[hannah'sdad]

The player is a Sony EV-PR2 8mm tape player. It has component out and I have a component to HDMI converter. Finding an internal capture card with a component interface is becoming more and more difficult. I know the image won't be perfect, but I am hoping that after I run it through Adobe Premiere, it will be acceptable. Frankly, what I want is the audio, more than the quality of the video. It's a voice I will never hear again and am anxious to get it captured.

Edit: I just looked at the rear and in addition to component, it appears to have both S-Video in and out. So, it may be better to get an S-video to HDMI converter with the ability to add the audio track? Or should I just stick with component to HDMI?

Scott

[Alwyn]

Gotcha, cheers Scott. I hope it works out. Precious memories.

PS: minor point/nitpicking, by Component I think you mean Composite? The images of the PR2 on Goooooogle show a Composite socket (yellow) and an S-video socket.

[hannah'sdad]

Yes, that is probably what I mean. I'm electrical engineer, but never dabbled in video like this. So, that you for the gentle pointer. Much appreciated.

Scott

[Subtitles]

Please take a look at AverMedia GC573 4K internal.
https://www.amazon.com/AVerMedia-GC573-Live-Gamer-4K/dp/B07DHSZC4K
Currently not available on Amazon USA, but available on Amazon Germany (Usually their price goes down to exclude the VAT for non EU countries). The usual sites should have it in the USA
It doesn't have composite inputs but only HDMI. You can buy an HDMI to RCA adapter if you need to use RCA connectors.
There is a cheaper model for HD (1080p)

I just ordered it on Amazon in the US. It will be here tomorrow. Hopefully this will work.

To clarify a bit, these are 8mm video tapes taken when my children were much younger (30-35 years ago). Many were taken by my late son who died three years ago in a traffic accident at the age of 29. So, I am trying to capture these tapes on my computer and possibly put them on DVDs before they get lost or damaged.

I appreciate all of the help that you all have provided. We'll see if this new card is the fix. Thanks!

Scott

I hope this card will do a good job. Please update us when you get the chance.
The card comes with bundled software so I would try that first instead of Adobe.
If not, here is the download instructions
https://www.avermedia.com/product-detail/GC573
https://www.avermedia.com/event/cyberlink-global/
and this utility might be useful too:
https://storage.avermedia.com/web_release_www/GC573/AVerMediaGamingUtility_v1.1.1_win.exe
https://d164vpkda9uyv1.cloudfront.net/web_upload/consumer/product/feature/Gaming_Utili...P_20180926.pdf

[hannah'sdad]

Thanks to all who helped. I will let you know how it turns out. I had to get the 8mm player from Japan, so all of the instructions are in Japanese! They just don't seem to make 8mm tape players anymore. I appreciate everything you all have said.

Scott

[Subtitles]

Thanks to all who helped. I will let you know how it turns out. I had to get the 8mm player from Japan, so all of the instructions are in Japanese! They just don't seem to make 8mm tape players anymore. I appreciate everything you all have said.

Scott

Do you have a link to the Japanes instructions? If it is a pdf file just upload it and I might be able to translate it for you, even if it is not with searchable text.

[hannah'sdad]

No, all I have is the unit and anything I was able to find with Google. But, the icons for the buttons don't change, thank goodness. Play is still play!

[Subtitles]

Take a picture of the buttons. You should be able to OCR it and translate to English.

[hannah'sdad]

I am please to report back that the new card works perfectly! No software issues or glitches. I appreciate all of the help in making this happen. Now down to actually transferring the tapes and getting them onto DVDs.

Scott

[Subtitles]

Thanks for the update.
I will probably buy this card myself for my future PC build, but I am considering ordering the Hauppauge Colossus 2 because it is a lot cheaper.
Before getting into making the DVDs, I think they would have an added value to add subtitles to them.
I will be happy to try creating the subtitles from the audio track of one finalized video and see if it is possible. It will depend greatly on the audio quality of the track.
Please DM me if you think this is a good idea.