Let's Try This again . . . Converting 4K to 1080p

[FunkyBassman]

Can a Rip of a 2160p (4k) disc that has all the menus and extra etc be converted into into a Bluray 1080p version ?

Is it Easy to do ?

What software will I need ?

Is there a guide to walk me through this?

[usually_quiet]

DVDFab UHD to Blu-ray Converter (not free) seems easy to use and it can convert UHD Blu-ray video to 1080p Blu-ray video. (Tone-mapping is used to approximate HDR and wide color gamut in Blu-ray's SDR color gamut.) I think it is possible to choose the audio, video, and subtitles to be included. (Subtitles will be downscaled for compatibility with Blu-ray resolution.) However, it won't convert the menus for Blu-ray. I don't remember seeing any software that does that.

I think that there is a short tutorial on DVDFab UHD to Blu-ray Converter's web page on the DVDFab website.

[TubeBar]

DVDFab UHD to Blu-ray Converter (not free) seems easy to use and it can convert UHD Blu-ray video to 1080p Blu-ray video. (Tone-mapping is used to approximate HDR and wide color gamut in Blu-ray's SDR color gamut.) I think it is possible to choose the audio, video, and subtitles to be included. (Subtitles will be downscaled for compatibility with Blu-ray resolution.) However, it won't convert the menus for Blu-ray. I don't remember seeing any software that does that.

I think that there is a short tutorial on DVDFab UHD to Blu-ray Converter's web page on the DVDFab website.

Or do it the lazy way and just buy the Blu-ray assuming that it is available.

[usually_quiet]

Or do it the lazy way and just buy the Blu-ray assuming that it is available.

True, and it might well be less expensive as well as easier to do as you suggest.

[TubeBar]

Or do it the lazy way and just buy the Blu-ray assuming that it is available.

True, and it might well be less expensive as well as easier to do as you suggest.

Unless he plans to keep doing this w/ many UHDs. DVDfab claims their UHD to BD conversions look better than the commercial BDs, which I find a bit hard to swallow but if that is at least partially true it maybe worth the investment. Keeping in mind Fab is known to have bloatware and highly exaggerate their products but they do get the job done overall.

[maonstad]

DvdFab 4k to BD doesn't work right. It converts the video perfectly, but the audio needs to be worked on. In comparison with the original, it shows the audio is 5.1 type (main 4K movie), but the conversion of the Original, converts the audio from 5.1 to 7.1. I've reported this to DVDFAB but nothing was done. I looked at through my Panasonic UB-420 player and it shows a dead audio on the conversion. I won't recomend the 4K to BD from dvdfab.

Edit: The movies I tried was Avengers, Wonder Woman. (Both 4K movies)

[TubeBar]

DvdFab 4k to BD doesn't work right. It converts the video perfectly, but the audio needs to be worked on. In comparison with the original, it shows the audio is 5.1 type (main 4K movie), but the conversion of the Original, converts the audio from 5.1 to 7.1. I've reported this to DVDFAB but nothing was done. I looked at through my Panasonic UB-420 player and it shows a dead audio on the conversion. I won't recomend the 4K to BD from dvdfab.

Edit: The movies I tried was Avengers, Wonder Woman. (Both 4K movies)

Their tech support is horrible. They always answer, request logs and nothing is ever fixed half the time. I don;t have that app but I do use StreamFab and MusicFab. That doesn't surprise me, thanks for the info.

[usually_quiet]

Most of the UHD Blu-ray movies I have purchased include the Blu-ray version on a separate disc.

If there isn't a Blu-ray copy, it is also possible to play ripped UHD movies with many recent computers. I ripped one of my UHD Blu-ray discs with MakeMKV a while back and was able to play the main movie using VLC or MPC-BE on a computer with only an iGPU that I built in 2018 and connected to a 1080p TV via HDMI. The software players I used can downscale the video and apply tone-mapping to simulate HDR and a wide color gamut.

[TubeBar]

Most of the UHD Blu-ray movies I have purchased include the Blu-ray version on a separate disc.

If there isn't a Blu-ray copy, it is also possible to play ripped UHD movies with many recent computers. I ripped one of my UHD Blu-ray discs with MakeMKV a while back and was able to play the main movie using VLC or MPC-BE on a computer with only an iGPU that I built in 2018 and connected to a 1080p TV via HDMI. The software players I used can downscale the video and apply tone-mapping to simulate HDR and a wide color gamut.

Most UHD I purchased include BD and Digital copy, it's pretty common these days like they used to do w/ DVD+BD Combos.

I have the LG 4k OLED so I have no need or desire for BD and I stream via Plex on my AppleTV 4k. Though my PC has no problem playing UHD rips and it's just a 2k SDR. I think it depends on the HDR used? Some is backwards compatible but supposedly doesn't look as good as true SDR. I'm still new to encoding and ripping 4k UHD but as I said I have no need to convert to SDR since it doesn't look as good.

[usually_quiet]

I have the LG 4k OLED so I have no need or desire for BD and I stream via Plex on my AppleTV 4k. Though my PC has no problem playing UHD rips and it's just a 2k SDR. I think it depends on the HDR used? Some is backwards compatible but supposedly doesn't look as good as true SDR. I'm still new to encoding and ripping 4k UHD but as I said I have no need to convert to SDR since it doesn't look as good.

As I understand the situation, UHD Blu-ray discs with HDR are required to provide HDR-10. The players that apply tone-mapping to simulate HDR support HDR-10.

[TubeBar]

I have the LG 4k OLED so I have no need or desire for BD and I stream via Plex on my AppleTV 4k. Though my PC has no problem playing UHD rips and it's just a 2k SDR. I think it depends on the HDR used? Some is backwards compatible but supposedly doesn't look as good as true SDR. I'm still new to encoding and ripping 4k UHD but as I said I have no need to convert to SDR since it doesn't look as good.

As I understand the situation, UHD Blu-ray discs with HDR are required to provide HDR-10. The players that apply tone-mapping to simulate HDR support HDR-10.

What about Dolby Vision? For some strange reason TMNT out of the Shadows UHD is only HDR but on iTunes it's full Dolby Vision. On my TV is looks very different. iTunes actually blows the UHD HDR away. It sucks because no way to rip the DV one.

I think I got iTunes and Amazon versions w/ UHD digital and moviesanywhere, wasn't an extra cost. Just bummed on that one. Not even sure I have any UHD w/ Dolby Vision think they're all HDR.

[netmask56]

I have the LG 4k OLED so I have no need or desire for BD and I stream via Plex on my AppleTV 4k. Though my PC has no problem playing UHD rips and it's just a 2k SDR. I think it depends on the HDR used? Some is backwards compatible but supposedly doesn't look as good as true SDR. I'm still new to encoding and ripping 4k UHD but as I said I have no need to convert to SDR since it doesn't look as good.

As I understand the situation, UHD Blu-ray discs with HDR are required to provide HDR-10. The players that apply tone-mapping to simulate HDR support HDR-10.

What about Dolby Vision? For some strange reason TMNT out of the Shadows UHD is only HDR but on iTunes it's full Dolby Vision. On my TV is looks very different. iTunes actually blows the UHD HDR away. It sucks because no way to rip the DV one.

I think I got iTunes and Amazon versions w/ UHD digital and moviesanywhere, wasn't an extra cost. Just bummed on that one. Not even sure I have any UHD w/ Dolby Vision think they're all HDR.

You can use MKVToolNix to make a MKV file or MakeMKV for discs of the original and it will maintain Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos. Just make sure you use the latest version. Here's part of my mediainfo file of my rip Of Valeran UHD disc using MakeMKV.

Movie name : Valerian And The City of a Thousand Planets
Encoded date : 2021-11-19 01:33:05 UTC
Writing application : MakeMKV v1.16.5 win(x64-release)
Writing library : libmakemkv v1.16.5 (1.3.10/1.5.2) win(x64-release)

Video
ID : 1
ID in the original source medium : 4113 (0x1011)
Format : HEVC
Format/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.07.06, BL+EL+RPU, Blu-ray compatible / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID : V_MPEGH/ISO/HEVC
Duration : 2 h 17 min
Bit rate : 52.6 Mb/s
Width : 3 840 pixels
Height : 2 160 pixels

[TubeBar]

I have the LG 4k OLED so I have no need or desire for BD and I stream via Plex on my AppleTV 4k. Though my PC has no problem playing UHD rips and it's just a 2k SDR. I think it depends on the HDR used? Some is backwards compatible but supposedly doesn't look as good as true SDR. I'm still new to encoding and ripping 4k UHD but as I said I have no need to convert to SDR since it doesn't look as good.

As I understand the situation, UHD Blu-ray discs with HDR are required to provide HDR-10. The players that apply tone-mapping to simulate HDR support HDR-10.

What about Dolby Vision? For some strange reason TMNT out of the Shadows UHD is only HDR but on iTunes it's full Dolby Vision. On my TV is looks very different. iTunes actually blows the UHD HDR away. It sucks because no way to rip the DV one.

I think I got iTunes and Amazon versions w/ UHD digital and moviesanywhere, wasn't an extra cost. Just bummed on that one. Not even sure I have any UHD w/ Dolby Vision think they're all HDR.

You can use MKVToolNix to make a MKV file or MakeMKV for discs of the original and it will maintain Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos. Just make sure you use the latest version. Here's part of my mediainfo file of my rip Of Valeran UHD disc using MakeMKV.

Movie name : Valerian And The City of a Thousand Planets
Encoded date : 2021-11-19 01:33:05 UTC
Writing application : MakeMKV v1.16.5 win(x64-release)
Writing library : libmakemkv v1.16.5 (1.3.10/1.5.2) win(x64-release)

Video
ID : 1
ID in the original source medium : 4113 (0x1011)
Format : HEVC
Format/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.07.06, BL+EL+RPU, Blu-ray compatible / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID : V_MPEGH/ISO/HEVC
Duration : 2 h 17 min
Bit rate : 52.6 Mb/s
Width : 3 840 pixels
Height : 2 160 pixels

Cool you can keep Dolby Vision, I will have to check my UHDs I must have some w/ DV? I have MakeMKV installed and custom FW w/ Libre drive just need to use it more. I probably have a good 20+ UHDs.

I'm going to have a look again and rip the rest of my discs, may as well.

Yours says "Blu-Ray compatible" did you do that or is that just how the video was created? It is possible some are backwards compatible even w/ HDR10 if you can't display DV.

[johns0]

Just curious why you want to downgrade a video,you do have a 4k tv so why watch it as 1920x1080 video?

[TubeBar]

Just curious why you want to downgrade a video,you do have a 4k tv so why watch it as 1920x1080 video?

I don't want to downgrade, the OP does. They didn't specify if they had a 4K TV. I was just having a discussion about HDR and being backwards compatible w/ SDR or buying the bluray to solve the OPs problem. Kind of went off topic lol

[usually_quiet]

What about Dolby Vision? For some strange reason TMNT out of the Shadows UHD is only HDR but on iTunes it's full Dolby Vision. On my TV is looks very different. iTunes actually blows the UHD HDR away. It sucks because no way to rip the DV one.

I think I got iTunes and Amazon versions w/ UHD digital and moviesanywhere, wasn't an extra cost. Just bummed on that one. Not even sure I have any UHD w/ Dolby Vision think they're all HDR.

Trying to stay on topic... As far as I know, the free software players that I mentioned don't simulate Dolby Vision via tone tone-mapping, only HDR-10. I have never tried to use any of the digital copies included with my purchased UHD Blu-ray movies. Until recently, my Internet service was too slow and I didn't have a 4K HDR-capable TV.

[johns0]

Just curious why you want to downgrade a video,you do have a 4k tv so why watch it as 1920x1080 video?

I don't want to downgrade, the OP does. They didn't specify if they had a 4K TV. I was just having a discussion about HDR and being backwards compatible w/ SDR or buying the bluray to solve the OPs problem. Kind of went off topic lol

I was referring to the op since he was the only one wanting to downgrade.

[TubeBar]

Just curious why you want to downgrade a video,you do have a 4k tv so why watch it as 1920x1080 video?

I don't want to downgrade, the OP does. They didn't specify if they had a 4K TV. I was just having a discussion about HDR and being backwards compatible w/ SDR or buying the bluray to solve the OPs problem. Kind of went off topic lol

I was referring to the op since he was the only one wanting to downgrade.

The OP didn't say if they have a 4k TV or even how they obtained this UHD rip. They could have downloaded it and not have a 4K display, it's unknown.