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  1. Why can't I find this program in any software list? Am I missing it somehow? Or has the site deemed it not software
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  2. [URL="http://https://www.topazlabs.com/topaz-video-ai"
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    You URL is messed up. It's here:

    https://www.topazlabs.com/topaz-video-ai
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    Nobody here likes it since you can get free software that does a better job.
    I think,therefore i am a hamster.
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  5. Originally Posted by VoodooFX View Post
    I guess he meant the lists here -> https://www.videohelp.com/software
    I've looked thru that list to 2009 and many other lists. I'm blind I guess cuz me no see it. Searching reveals nothing but a bunch of haters of the program. I'm stupid and tring to use avsynth, Qm.... Baffles me.
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  6. Tbh it deserves hate. Imagine paying for advertisements for a 200$+ program, using cherry picked examples to lure people into the rubbish that makes tons of artefacts on fine looking video... Like if you are going to make a terrible software, at least make it dirt cheap.

    Also it does not provide any other restoration methods other than deinterlacing denoising and sharpening. Like the avisyth is free and provides much more than that.

    Last of all, they like to call themselves professional grade while advertising on facebook and not having even their own wikipedia page
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  7. But it's on sale now under 200. LOL the hate for this program 😂
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  8. Like Avisynth/Vapoursynth it's another tool that can be used and not a solution for everything.
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    Referring to legit harsh criticism as "hate" from "haters" is dismissive, passive aggressive even.
    It still doesn't change the deserved criticism in the slightest.

    Even junk sells.
    And the world is full on stubborn contrarians.
    Or the gullible. ("But they said their stuff is good!" Well, duh.)
    If a company canned farts, and called it rose scented, somebody would buy it, defend the purchase, and insist it smells like roses. Sometimes humans are truly stupid.
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  10. Again. How is it I can't find it in any of the software lists. I'm not great at searching websites to find stuff sometimes. Using the wrong wording etc...wrong list. Ah well probably hidden in plain sight
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    "the software lists"...? On this site? It isn't, as has already been mentioned. Most of the software on these lists have been suggested by a member, then vetted, then finally decided by Baldric or the Mods and published or not. It hasn't made the cut yet.

    There are a number of apps that are still good that I have suggested that never made it to these lists. So what? It's a bonus if it is here, but that doesn't make it gone otherwise. The app in question can easily be gotten from the manufacturer site, linked in Post#4.

    Whether it is good or not is another topic, and one that has already been fully discussed.

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  12. Thank you Cornucopia. Wanted to see the reviews and ratings from users on this site. Alas not to be found.
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  13. There is a discussion about this software:
    https://forum.videohelp.com/threads/399360-so-where-s-all-the-Topaz-Video-Enhance-AI-discussion
    It has about 19 pages, some love it, some talk against it, that there is free apps that can be used instead.
    Free apps (and their filters) are not easy to use, some knowledge is needed. Talking about Avisynth or Vapoursynth and theirs library filters. So video needs to be evaluated and then filers downloaded and used in their scripts.
    Topaz is perhaps designed so anyone can use it right away, GUI oriented.
    Either you dedicate some time and try to make those scripts to work with those free tools with help of this forum or just use Topaz or something else.
    These sort of automated tools will be popping out more and more. Quality might differ, and also it depends what your source is. Regular human would say anything sharper and with more contrast (or tiny it more saturated) looks better.
    Some ai tools go and certainly will go too far, and this is a direction it is going, it will just construct new reality really (hair, skin, structure of the objects) based on trained models. Love it or hate it.
    Scripting tools are more versatile in a sense you can fix, restore videos, but it certainly takes a lot of time to come up with a script, identify the problem and find a filter or better correct sequence of filters.
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  14. Yes I've gone through that discussion here and at doom plus watched YouTube clips. I've downloaded the program and crashed my computer awhile back. Need a better GPU. I think. I'm not skilled enough or just tool lazy to figure out avisynth n scripting. Prefer programs like tmpgenc with easier interfaces. I believe the program is neither rubbish nor miracle but where it lies between those 2 extremes is the question.
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    What I don't understand is the expectation that a "simple", EZ tool would regularly and consistently satisfy the needs of a complex problem.


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    That's the key point, Scott. It requires days or weeks of effort to find the best AviSynth/VapourSynth script/filtering/parameters to perform the best restoration, and people think that few clicks on a GUI can perform the same. No way.

    BTW, the good results obtained by JoelHruska in the mentioned thread merging AviSynth and Topaz VEAI required weeks of effort. The same for the best AviSynth results showed there.
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    Like or dislike the program and its price, it does something very easily (and quite well) that amateurs can't do.
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    it does something very easily (and quite well) that amateurs can't do.
    False.
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    Originally Posted by lollo View Post
    it does something very easily (and quite well) that amateurs can't do.
    False.
    True.
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    False.
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    Kindergarten must be out for lunch.
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    Originally Posted by Cornucopia View Post
    False.
    OK, give an example of a program that will change fps (up) in such a simple way.
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  23. Originally Posted by rgr View Post

    OK, give an example of a program that will change fps (up) in such a simple way.
    Did you mean "simple to use" machine learning FPS conversion ? or did you mean "simple way" algorithm conversion (ie. duplicates, blends) ?

    Flowframes is an easy to use GUI than can use RIFE, DAIN, some others
    https://nmkd.itch.io/flowframes
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    Originally Posted by Alwyn View Post
    Kindergarten must be out for lunch.
    False.
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    Did you mean "simple to use" machine learning FPS conversion ? or did you mean "simple way" algorithm conversion (ie. duplicates, blends) ?
    He probably meant AviSynth SVSmoothFps or FrameRateConverter or similar
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    Originally Posted by rgr View Post

    OK, give an example of a program that will change fps (up) in such a simple way.
    Did you mean "simple to use" machine learning FPS conversion ? or did you mean "simple way" algorithm conversion (ie. duplicates, blends) ?

    Flowframes is an easy to use GUI than can use RIFE, DAIN, some others
    https://nmkd.itch.io/flowframes
    Flowframes can only change by an integer factor (2x, 3x, etc.). Even this program doesn't work for me
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  27. Originally Posted by rgr View Post
    Flowframes can only change by an integer factor (2x, 3x, etc.). Even this program doesn't work for me
    RIFE 4.x models can use non integer multiples (but older models like 2.3, 2.4 are better in terms of quality). Not sure if 4.x is available in the free version of flowframes

    I'm not up to date on the GUI's , but there are other GUI's . Some of them are pretty cluttered. Maybe that's enough reason to pay for other software e.g
    https://github.com/AaronFeng753/Waifu2x-Extension-GUI

    Some features might not be free, not sure I don't really use the GUIs

    I use the vapoursynth/avisynth versions, or the python versions of the various projects if they don't have a vapoursynth port. I think some some GUI's like hybrid have RIFE too, but you need a special download from selur

    I also use VEIA. because it can be useful tool for some scenarios. But it's not very good if you use it 1-click. You need pre/post processing to get ideal results - ie. you have to use other tools anyways
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