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    Hi all,
    I was wondering if the Pioneer GGV1305 Service Disc is compatible with a Pioneer DVR-560H recorder, to replace a dying hard drive?

    I gave a donation to Hkan years ago for the 1305 service disc, to upgrade the hard drive in my long gone, old DVR-543, in which the dvd burner died a few years after. I then bought the DVR-560H, which has been great up until now.

    Can I use the 1305 disc to replace the hard drive in the DVR-560H, or do I need the GGV1321 disc?

    I found an ISO image of the GGV1321 disc here: https://archive.org/details/pioneer-ggv-1321-type-2

    I do not think it is a working copy though, because it is readable in my pc dvd player. It shows a bunch of .BIN folders. (unless I did not burn it right, I used ISOburn to burn the disc, finalized) This disc should not be readable in a pc, should it??

    If I cannot use the 1305 disc, where can I get a good copy of the GGV1321 disc? Can Hkan still be contacted somehow, for info, or a possible download link?

    Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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    Nobody knows ??
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    Possibly, but unknown for sure.

    The Service Manual for the UK/Euro models
    DVR-LX61D
    DVR-560HX-S
    DVR-560HX-K

    Says;



    The x60 series all came out in 2008, both in UK/Euro and Canada.

    The last comprehensive ID data disc listing show the GGV1305 was a preceeding disc that covered earlier models.



    The "list" is from an "English" adjacent language speaker.. so the use of the term "Substitute" is open to interpretation.. it might mean its a Substitute "for" a previous disc.. or an indirect reference to when Pioneer and Onkyo stereo systems were being serviced by the same shops.

    The System Programming discs appeared to be released in "Epochs" over time to cover a "Tools / Jigs" release schedule.. which was not exactly linear. Some might be released in parallel, so there was some over lap.

    Someone, a long time ago, started referring to the DVRs in groups, called "Type1" or "Type2" and referring to the ID Discs as members of the "Type1" or "Type2" discs.

    The last ID disc I'm aware of is the GGV1321
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    Thanks for the replies.
    Looks like I need the 1321 disc. Anybody know if the link in my first post for the GGV1321 disc is a good, working copy?
    There is an ISO file for the GGV1321 disc, and a Torrent file there also.
    I downloaded the ISO file, and burned it with "ISOburn", but the disc is readable in my PC's dvd drive. I read somewhere that if the disc can be read on a PC drive, that the copy is no good, and should NOT be readable in a PC.
    So, is this ISO download link for the disc no good, or am I burning it wrong?
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    Originally Posted by Big Al View Post
    Thanks for the replies.
    Looks like I need the 1321 disc. Anybody know if the link in my first post for the GGV1321 disc is a good, working copy?
    There is an ISO file for the GGV1321 disc, and a Torrent file there also.
    I downloaded the ISO file, and burned it with "ISOburn", but the disc is readable in my PC's dvd drive. I read somewhere that if the disc can be read on a PC drive, that the copy is no good, and should NOT be readable in a PC.
    So, is this ISO download link for the disc no good, or am I burning it wrong?
    i believe you have to use a CD-R disc - https://www.videohelp.com/dvdhacks/pioneer-dvr-420h/4554
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    The DVR-420 is a "very" old model, the middle digit represents the year of issue.

    So the 420 is four years or generations older than a 560

    The GGV ID discs Hkan used to make available often came as Nero .nrg files not .iso files, but by the time of GGV1321 he was allowing them to be downloaded as .iso files and recommending burning those with Imgburn or iso recorder.

    I think its a matter of "size" the GGV1321 .iso file is 1.6 GB in size that will not fit on even the largest CD-R so it has to be a DVD.

    Also over time the DVD drive in these recorders varied in the media they preferred or would read. DVD-RW versus DVD+RW or DVD-R versus DVD+R

    I "believe" the preferred media is/was up until the end DVD-R media.

    Occasionally you could get DVD-RW media to work in certain models, but not all. A weak laser could also sabotage the ability to read any media.

    DVD+RW "in theory" is better.. since it had registration tracks on the disc.. but came so late in the game almost no one had a DVD drive that could read it, other than HP and a handful of oem's Outside computers DVD+RW was almost never used in DVD recorders.

    So your best option is a handful of DVD-R media.

    I say a "hand full" because you only get one shot at making a DVD-R media before its used up, and because you may have to burn it a couple times to get a "good one".

    The "best" GGV1321 is a DVD-R disc you know is good from someone that has used it before in a DVD recorder to perform the procedure your trying to do.

    Even better is if they used it in a DVD recorder that is the exact same model as yours.
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    I did mess around with making one or two at one time several years ago, five-ish ? Around 2017

    I don't know if I still have this disc.

    I was learning how to use a DVD label printer at the time

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    I did check the md5sum on the page from archive org that you provided in the original message post.

    It did match the one I got years ago, and that worked for me in a Pioneer DVD recorder.

    If you get that image and run an md5 checksum tool on it and the checksum matches, there is a fair chance that it will work.
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    Sorry for the late response to all, as I was away on vacation.
    Thanks to all for the replies!
    I tried the Md5 checksum tool for the GGV1321 Type 2 iso download, as jwillis84 suggested, and it matches perfectly. (thanks jwillis84 !)
    The disc is burnt and ready to go!

    Is there a way to test this disc without actually replacing the hard drive?? As I am still waiting for my replacement hard drive to arrive, and I want to be sure that the disc will work correctly.
    Thanks!
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    I think the only test that matters is if the DVD recorder accepts it and completes the step of writing the ID of the new drive to the recorder. Orsetto probably has the most personal experience and could offer failure mode guidance. I believe the default failure mode is if the disc is not accepted, the old hard drive remains paired to the recorder.. but that doesn't really help since you wouldn't be trying to do this unless that old hard drive is no longer working. You also can't go backwards, and re-associate an old hard drive with recordings on it "as if" it were a VHS tape or video game cartridge.. changing the ID makes the recorder totally forget how to play the recordings on that old hard drive.. so just emphasizing.. this is a "repair procedure" not a regular owner procedure.
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    Originally Posted by jwillis84 View Post
    I think the only test that matters is if the DVD recorder accepts it and completes the step of writing the ID of the new drive to the recorder. Orsetto probably has the most personal experience and could offer failure mode guidance. I believe the default failure mode is if the disc is not accepted, the old hard drive remains paired to the recorder.. but that doesn't really help since you wouldn't be trying to do this unless that old hard drive is no longer working. You also can't go backwards, and re-associate an old hard drive with recordings on it "as if" it were a VHS tape or video game cartridge.. changing the ID makes the recorder totally forget how to play the recordings on that old hard drive.. so just emphasizing.. this is a "repair procedure" not a regular owner procedure.
    Thanks jwillis84, I guess I will just have to hope for the best, and try the disc when my new hard drive arrives.
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    Well if it doesn't work out maybe I can hunt up one of my old GGV1321 DVD discs an send it to you.

    Its quite a dance with the service remote and not pushing the tray back into the recorder after updating the ID.

    The tendency is to do that and it can cause the whole thing to not work.
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