Does anyone have this card?

[Caius]

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Can i conect the i-link from the JVC HM-DH30000U on it?? @dellsam34

[jgg]

I guess - due to the age of the card - there doesn't seem to be have been much recent activity, but you might want to ask the people in this forum: http://forum.matrox.com/rtx100/

[jgg]

Whoops

[usually_quiet]

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Can i conect the i-link from the JVC HM-DH30000U on it?? @dellsam34

I'm not dellsam34 but the answer to your question is "No".

The manual from the JVC HM-DH30000U says the following:

This VCR uses a four-pin i.LINK connector to input and
output MPEG2 video signals, audio signals, and control
signals. The i.LINK connector is also used as an input
for DV compressed signals from the DV output of a
digital video camera.

The Firewire port on the Matrox RT.X100 Xtreme Pro can only accept DV input. It doesn't accept MPEG-2 transport streams as input. Unfortunately, the JVC HM-DH30000U outputs a MPEG-2 transport stream.

[dellsam34]

It has been explained to him in his threads numerous times that the firewire port for that card and some of the Pinnacles is for DV only not MPEG-2, I know he doesn't speak English but I've tried to simplify it to him as much as I could but he doesn't seem to get it and keeps insisting on creating more threads.

[Caius]

It has been explained to him in his threads numerous times that the firewire port for that card and some of the Pinnacles is for DV only not MPEG-2, I know he doesn't speak English but I've tried to simplify it to him as much as I could but he doesn't seem to get it and keeps insisting on creating more threads.

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But the last time I asked, you didn't answer. Is this the card that might be the only one that will get what I want?

[Caius]

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Can i conect the i-link from the JVC HM-DH30000U on it?? @dellsam34

I'm not dellsam34 but the answer to your question is "No".

The manual from the JVC HM-DH30000U says the following:

This VCR uses a four-pin i.LINK connector to input and
output MPEG2 video signals, audio signals, and control
signals. The i.LINK connector is also used as an input
for DV compressed signals from the DV output of a
digital video camera.

The Firewire port on the Matrox RT.X100 Xtreme Pro can only accept DV input. It doesn't accept MPEG-2 transport streams as input. Unfortunately, the JVC HM-DH30000U outputs a MPEG-2 transport stream.

But I just wanted to understand which card would be needed, the one I have to buy to see the vhs tape through the firewire cable in the model JVC HM-DH30000U

[usually_quiet]

But I just wanted to understand which card would be needed, the one I have to buy to see the vhs tape through the firewire cable in the model JVC HM-DH30000U

The Placa Firewire card (VIA chipset) could work. However, if you can find one, a similar Firewire card with a Texas Instruments (TI) chipset is preferred for older devices like the JVC DVHS decks.

I found a thread from 2014 on DigitalFAQ that stated that the JVC DVHS decks use the same PC drivers as HDV camcorders, and those drivers were provided with Windows. (In 2014, the most common Windows version was Windows 7.) So, apparently, all someone needed to capture the Firewire output from the JVC DVHS decks was those Windows 7 Firewire drivers, HDVSplit, and a standard Firewire-only card.

[dellsam34]

HDVSplit will not capture D-VHS stream, I've tried it. CapDVHS or VLC work okay. I believe the latest version of Windows that can stream D-VHS is Windows 7 and the latest version that can print back to tape is Windows XP using DVHSTool app.

[Caius]

But I just wanted to understand which card would be needed, the one I have to buy to see the vhs tape through the firewire cable in the model JVC HM-DH30000U

The Placa Firewire card (VIA chipset) could work. However, if you can find one, a similar Firewire card with a Texas Instruments (TI) chipset is preferred for older devices like the JVC DVHS decks.

I found a thread from 2014 on DigitalFAQ that stated that the JVC DVHS decks use the same PC drivers as HDV camcorders, and those drivers were provided with Windows. (In 2014, the most common Windows version was Windows 7.) So, apparently, all someone needed to capture the Firewire output from the JVC DVHS decks was those Windows 7 Firewire drivers, HDVSplit, and a standard Firewire-only card.

There is a person selling this matrox in my city, but as you say you won't be able to capture anything with it entry, so I won't buy from him.

Can you tell me the name of the card I have to buy? Directly with a link ?


I can't find the another one for sale in my country. So, I have to order from outside and pay a very expensive shipping. But I want to risk it, just to know whether or not my JVC's firewire/i-link output is faulty.

[usually_quiet]

You need a PCIe card with one or more FireWire 1394a (Firewire 400) ports.

This PCIe x1 card has two FireWire 1394a (Firewire 400) ports and a TI chipset:
Startech PEX1394A2V2

These two PCIe x1 cards use a TI chipset. They have two Firewire 1394b (Firewire 800) ports and one FireWire 1394a (Firewire 400) port:
Syba SD-PEX30009
Startech PEX1394B3

If you want links, list the outside websites that can ship to your location.

[Caius]

You need a PCIe card with one or more FireWire 1394a (Firewire 400) ports.

This PCIe x1 card has two FireWire 1394a (Firewire 400) ports and a TI chipset:
Startech PEX1394A2V2

These two PCIe x1 cards use a TI chipset. They have two Firewire 1394b (Firewire 800) ports and one FireWire 1394a (Firewire 400) port:
Syba SD-PEX30009
Startech PEX1394B3

If you want links, list the outside websites that can ship to your location.

So this card doesn't work for the D-vhs?

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This is one I can find with a price I can afford, the ones you mentioned are much more expensive.

[dellsam34]

No one knows if the card works based on a picture. If the card can transfer data such as a firewire HDD or an optical drive it should work for D-VHS, Also make sure it has a compatible driver for Win 10 unless you are still using Win 7 which should not be a problem, otherwise look for legacy drivers to use with win 10.

[hech54]

D-VHS machines can't output regular VHS tapes via Firewire, can they?

[usually_quiet]

D-VHS machines can't output regular VHS tapes via Firewire, can they?

Unless I misunderstood the manual, the JVC machines certainly can. I don't know what they do with audio because I didn't read that section of the manual. (The JVC machines have a built-in MPEG-2 hardware encoder.)

[Edit]After looking at the manual again, I am not sure what happens when this machine is used to play a VHS tape that was recorded on a regular analog VCR. The manual for the JVC HM-DH30000U discusses recording on VHS tapes and playing its own recordings but I couldn't find anything definitive about playing a VHS tape that was recorded on a regular analog VCR. I guess only someone who has tried playing an analog VHS tape with one of these machines can say what it does.

[usually_quiet]

You need a PCIe card with one or more FireWire 1394a (Firewire 400) ports.

This PCIe x1 card has two FireWire 1394a (Firewire 400) ports and a TI chipset:
Startech PEX1394A2V2

These two PCIe x1 cards use a TI chipset. They have two Firewire 1394b (Firewire 800) ports and one FireWire 1394a (Firewire 400) port:
Syba SD-PEX30009
Startech PEX1394B3

If you want links, list the outside websites that can ship to your location.

So this card doesn't work for the D-vhs?

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This is one I can find with a price I can afford, the ones you mentioned are much more expensive.

A Firewire card with a VIA chip may work just fine for you, especially since the JVC SVHS recorders use the same Firewire drivers as HDV cameras, a very common consumer device. However, I can't promise that any type of Firewire card will work with an old VCR.

The reason why I recommended cards with Texas Instruments chips is that TI chips are supposed to be more reliable and more compatible with old and rare devices. (At one time there were lots of devices that used Firewire.)

[dellsam34]

D-VHS machines can't output regular VHS tapes via Firewire, can they?

I speak for US machines, They do output VHS as SD MPEG-2 as long as they are not Macrovision protected, I did a whole thread about capturing using D-VHS and posted samples.

[Caius]

D-VHS machines can't output regular VHS tapes via Firewire, can they?

Unless I misunderstood the manual, the JVC machines certainly can. I don't know what they do with audio because I didn't read that section of the manual. (The JVC machines have a built-in MPEG-2 hardware encoder.)

[Edit]After looking at the manual again, I am not sure what happens when this machine is used to play a VHS tape that was recorded on a regular analog VCR. The manual for the JVC HM-DH30000U discusses recording on VHS tapes and playing its own recordings but I couldn't find anything definitive about playing a VHS tape that was recorded on a regular analog VCR. I guess only someone who has tried playing an analog VHS tape with one of these machines can say what it does.

The model I have JVC HM-DH30000U, plays common vhs tapes quietly, in NTSC only.

[Caius]

I have XP, Win 7, Win 8 and Win 10

[Caius]

So let's get this straight, should I buy one of these
models:

Startech PEX1394A2V2
Syba SD-PEX30009
Startech PEX1394B3

...to try to know if I can reproduce and capture common Vhs (NTSC) or super Vhs tapes through a firewire cable on the JVC HM-DH30000U ?? That's the only way to know if I'm going to make it, right? @usually_quiet

[usually_quiet]

So let's get this straight, should I buy one of these
models:

Startech PEX1394A2V2
Syba SD-PEX30009
Startech PEX1394B3

...to try to know if I can reproduce and capture common Vhs (NTSC) or super Vhs tapes through a firewire cable on the JVC HM-DH30000U ?? That's the only way to know if I'm going to make it, right? @usually_quiet

If the Startech and Syba Firewire cards with a Texas Instruments chipset really are too expensive, then get the Placa Firewire card with the VIA chipset. The TI chipsets have a reputation for being the best and that is why they are recommended so often. However, you may not need the best. The Placa firewire card may work fine.

The documentation for your DVHS recorder neither recommends a particular Firewire chipset nor does it carry a warning that a particular Firewire chipset should be avoided. The VIA chipsets are reported to perform less well than the TI chipsets for a data transfer requiring high data rates for a long period of time. Under those conditions, the VIA chipsets may do the equivalent of dropping the connection. However, I don't think that what you want to do fits that description.

[Caius]

All I wanted to do, was try to capture a normal ntsc vhs tape through the i-link output of this model d-vhs I have.
Maybe you have read my drama with this d-vhs deck here on the forum, with a possible mistake of mine to have damaged either the d-vhs or the pinnacle card.
Some peoples here have told me that the svideo output is better for capturing than the firewire cable output. But my curiosity is big to see the video through the firewire cable.

I don't have a lot of money to spend so I'll take my chances with the cheapest firewire card.
But first I'll give a new search here for my city in those you indicated.


@usually_quiet

[dellsam34]

Here we go again....
No the Pinnacle card does not stream MPEG-2 and the D-VHS never being tested with a compatible card, The yellow triangle in device manager was about its TV tuner which has nothing to do with tape streaming as I've explained 1000 times, so stop guessing and just follow what the members tell you to do otherwise this thread will turn into another drama thread like the others.

[Caius]

Here we go again....
No the Pinnacle card does not stream MPEG-2 and the D-VHS never being tested with a compatible card, The yellow triangle in device manager was about its TV tuner which has nothing to do with tape streaming as I've explained 1000 times, so stop guessing and just follow what the members tell you to do otherwise this thread will turn into another drama thread like the others.