48" TV Panasonic th-42pv500e.

[OldSchool297]

I have a old one and can't use the HDMI port for TV channels or blu-ray. I can use Google Chromecast ultra for pictures. I have not try to stream any. but it only gives a black screen when trying TV or bluray. I have checked the HDMI cable and it works on another tv

[davexnet]

Depending on the vintage of the tv it may not have HDCP. If it's not there modern devices
may not stream to it

[OldSchool297]

I tried to stream from my Chromebook and it worked but it lagged from the usual cast menu on the Chromebook. So ii guess the TV can show video trough HDMI. Is there any way to stream trough Chromebook without using internet or wifi? I want to use the Chromecast ultra.

[OldSchool297]

I can't understand why the screen only went black when using HDMI for bluray or TV box. I have tried both HDMI options on the TV.

[usually_quiet]

I can't understand why the screen only went black when using HDMI for bluray or TV box. I have tried both HDMI options on the TV.

Someone already mentioned HDCP as a possible cause of this problem. Blu-ray players and many TV boxes apply HDCP to their video output for copy-protected content delivered using HDMI. Your TV dates from 2005 and might be so old that HDCP handshaking doesn't work as it should when it is connected to newer devices that use recent versions of HDMI and HDCP.

[jagabo]

I can't understand why the screen only went black when using HDMI for bluray or TV box.

Devices that require HDCP encryption will not send a picture to an HDMI display that doesn't support it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-bandwidth_Digital_Content_Protection

Look for an HDMI splitter that strips HDCP. You should be able to find one for about US$20.

[OldSchool297]

Thanks for the help. I didn't found info in the manual by a quick look https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.manualslib.com/manual...dCZ9SiQ6G5uUCG

[usually_quiet]

I tried to stream from my Chromebook and it worked but it lagged from the usual cast menu on the Chromebook. So ii guess the TV can show video trough HDMI. Is there any way to stream trough Chromebook without using internet or wifi? I want to use the Chromecast ultra.

An Internet connection is necessary to access streaming services. I think it is possible to cast video from another device to a Chromecast Ultra without using Wi-Fi. See https://www.the-tech-addict.com/how-to-use-chromecast-without-wifi-and-internet/

[OldSchool297]

I wanted to stream from my Chromebook downloads to my Chromecast ultra. But i don't find the cast button without wifi. There is also a PC card slot on this retro TV. I saw it could record live TV. How big can the cards be for this? I only have a Canon multimedia card MMC-16M 16mb.

[jagabo]

Thanks for the help. I didn't found info in the manual by a quick look https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.manualslib.com/manual...dCZ9SiQ6G5uUCG

The manual shows an HDCP decrypter module on page 133.

Make sure your devices are set to output a format the TV supports. For example, 1080i, not 1080p. Many early HDTVs did not support 1080p input.

[OldSchool297]

Thanks i will try. So i guess this vintage TV can handle hdcp after all? I seen MMC cards can be found in 512gb max. How much can this TV handle?

[usually_quiet]

The manual shows an HDCP decrypter module on page 133.

Unfortunately, even if the TV supports HDCP that doesn't guarantee success. Until recently I had a 2015 HDTV hooked up to a 2009 cable box via HDMI. The TV wouldn't display a picture even though the same cable box and HDMI cable worked perfectly in the past with a 2008 HDTV connected via HDMI. Installing a splitter that stripped HDCP fixed the problem. I didn't need the splitter anymore after I replaced the old cable box with the current model from my service provider last month

Make sure your devices are set to output a format the TV supports. For example, 1080i, not 1080p. Many early HDTVs did not support 1080p input.

Good idea. The TV's manual says that the TV supports 720p and 1080i but doesn't mention 1080p.

[OldSchool297]

I tried a Motorola VIP 1910-9 and it showed the start picture and meny. I don't have a TV card for it so i could not try. I guess i need a adapter to get my other things work in HDMI.

[OldSchool297]

Is it a splitter like this? https://www.tradera.com/item/170703/542891825/hdmi-splitter-1-x-2

[jagabo]

Is it a splitter like this? https://www.tradera.com/item/170703/542891825/hdmi-splitter-1-x-2

Yes. But beware that not all splitters can strip HDCP. By the HDMI license agreement they aren't supposed to. So you have to find one from a shady manufacturer.

[OldSchool297]

Thanks. Any examples?

[jagabo]

I don't know what's available now.

[OldSchool297]

I solved the problem with a new hdmi cable. The pictures went perfect on this old TV. I even got a old blu-ray player Samsung BD E5300 to work. I got the HDMI concact lost when i should remove it from the other TV. So i figured out it could have been broken before.

[OldSchool297]

This Tv can have max 1gb sdcard. What type of card is it? I can't find by google.

[jagabo]

It's hard to find such small flash memory cards these days. Here's one example:

https://www.amazon.com/AlphX-Innovations-1gb-Card-pack/dp/B0842YS4CP/

But the TV's built in media player probably won't play modern A/V files. According to the manual it only plays "MPEG4" video.

https://www.manua.ls/panasonic/th-42pv500e/manual

That most likely means MPEG 4 part 2 -- like Divx or Xvid videos. And probably limited to SD resolutions.

[OldSchool297]

Thank you i will look for them. Is it SDHC card type? I use this as a computer screen to a Dell T3500 vintage computer with a Nvidia Quadro Fx 5300 256mb card. It is good to play videos smooth. I guess the tv screen only can go to 1024? Is it the same when playing videos over Vga?

I must have been lucky to be able to play HD video on this old computer? I got hold of a high performance vintage computer from 2010 Dell T3500 with 24GB of ram that i am very pleased with, when you don't play games it is nearly impossible to use all. A regular phone uses between 2 or 3gb. With a GDDR3 Nvidia Quadro Fx 5300 graphic card on 256mb that costed 1600dollars back in 2006. GDDR3 plays video in a better smoth way and uses less power. A standard 1080p video when playing in Vlc only use 4-7% of the cpu. And the highest video avaible in 120fps only uses 10% of the cpu. 4k is the same. And the the graphic card is from 2006. It has a Intel® Xeon® Processor E5645. 12M Cache, 2.40 GHz, 5.86 GT/s Intel® QPI. It must be a special computer. Were to find 120fps videos or in 8k? I tried in Youtube but aren't sure they are real 120fps or 8k. I am surprised this old computer can handle this with only 10% cpu usage.

[jagabo]

Is it SDHC card type?

SDHC is higher capacity SD. SDHC cards won't work in an old device that only supports SD. SDXC and SDUC are even newer and larger -- and will not work in old SD devices.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sdhc
https://vishveshtech.blogspot.com/2014/09/how-to-choose-correct-memory-card.html

[usually_quiet]

And the the graphic card is from 2006. It has a Intel® Xeon® Processor E5645. 12M Cache, 2.40 GHz, 5.86 GT/s Intel® QPI. It must be a special computer. Were to find 120fps videos or in 8k? I tried in Youtube but aren't sure they are real 120fps or 8k. I am surprised this old computer can handle this with only 10% cpu usage.

Regardless of the resolution and framerate listed in a video's description, YouTube normally streams video at the best quality that both your Internet service and display device support. If you want to try playing an 8K video, you probably need to use a video downloader such as FireDM-GUI to obtain one as a file from YouTube or a website that hosts free demo files.

4K videos and 8K videos are likely to be encoded using H265, VP9, or AV1. My 2021 Tiger Lake laptop can play those kinds of 8K 30 fps videos easily using its iGPU's Intel QuickSync video decoding. However, it is very unlikely that your ancient computer from 2006 can decode them in real time using its CPU or GPU and software decoders.

[jagabo]

I've seen several youtube videos with 8K and 120 fps in the title. But yt-dlp only shows up to 8K at 60 fps for those videos. For example:

"8K VIDEOS | World 8K Videos HDR UltraHD (120 FPS) | Sony Demo"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjoplqS1u18

[info] Available formats for WjoplqS1u18:
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In this case the comments indicate it was actually shot at 4K and upscaled.

[usually_quiet]

The TV OldOchool297 is using doesn't support HD video at 120 fps anyway. Even if it did, the VGA and DVI connections on his video card can't provide HD video output at 120 fps.

Just for fun, I downloaded the 8K 60fps AV1 video from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjoplqS1u18 My Tiger Lake laptop could play that too. I often wish Intel had released a Tiger Lake Desktop processor too.

[OldSchool297]

I tried to play a Top Gun Maverick 2160p x265 with bit rate 6391kb/s. 23.976fps. 3840/2024. I have had my computer on for a week and the Vlc player played it with between 15-28% cpu usage. This vintage computer plays videos pretty good. 12 years old and a graphic card from 2006.

[jagabo]

And so can a $20 media player.

[usually_quiet]

I tried to play a Top Gun Maverick 2160p x265 with bit rate 6391kb/s. 23.976fps. 3840/2024. I have had my computer on for a week and the Vlc player played it with between 15-28% cpu usage. This vintage computer plays videos pretty good. 12 years old and a graphic card from 2006.

I'll have to see if my desktop with an Intel i5 10400, which is only a mid-range processor by today's standards, can do the same without using Quick Sync video decoding. It has 6 cores and 12 threads with a base clock speed of 2.67 GHz and a boost clock speed of 4.3 GHz, which are somewhat better specs than your Xenon has.

[jagabo]

2160p x265

I'll have to see if my desktop with an Intel i5 10400, which is only a mid-range processor by today's standards, can do the same without using Quick Sync video decoding. It has 6 cores and 12 threads with a base clock speed of 2.67 GHz and a boost clock speed of 4.3 GHz, which are somewhat better specs than your Xenon has.

Easily. My older 8 core 16 thread Intel CPU can do it with 10 to 15 percent CPU usage (with integrated graphics).