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    hii any one explain about lossless images and how to create them
    i am thinking to make little animation from images which i make
    i need guide before starting..
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    which lightweight software shall i use in my pc to draw lossless images..
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  3. Not sure what you want to do, but may be OpenToonz (https://opentoonz.github.io/e/) does what you want,...
    users currently on my ignore list: deadrats, Stears555
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  4. Common lossless image formats would be a format like bitmap (.bmp) , or png

    What kind of drawing ?

    for lightweight - ms paint

    more features - krita (paint), gimp (more for photo manipulation, but has many plugins), inkscape (vectors)
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    Originally Posted by poisondeathray View Post
    Common lossless image formats would be a format like bitmap (.bmp) , or png

    What kind of drawing ?

    for lightweight - ms paint

    more features - krita (paint), gimp (more for photo manipulation, but has many plugins), inkscape (vectors)
    Am thinking to make game , for that i wanna draw some images which will be used in that game
    Which image drawing software will be good and easy for beginner?
    Images will be low resolutions..around 128128
    So any pixel based image creation tool?
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  6. For low res, pixel art, limited color pallette try grafx2
    http://grafx2.chez.com/

    There are tutorials on YT
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    All created images will be lossless??
    Even if i use ms paint ,will it compressed while saving??
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  8. Originally Posted by kirito View Post
    All created images will be lossless??
    Even if i use ms paint ,will it compressed while saving??
    If you choose bmp, it will be 8bit uncompressed (large filesizes)

    If you choose png, it will be 8bit lossless compressed (smaller filesizes)
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    Originally Posted by poisondeathray View Post
    Originally Posted by kirito View Post
    All created images will be lossless??
    Even if i use ms paint ,will it compressed while saving??
    If you choose bmp, it will be 8bit uncompressed (large filesizes)

    If you choose png, it will be 8bit lossless compressed (smaller filesizes)
    .bmp and .png both are lossless formats
    Then why bmp has large file size and png has low file size..

    does png format's lossless compression algorithm is better then bmp??
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  10. Originally Posted by kirito View Post
    Originally Posted by poisondeathray View Post
    Originally Posted by kirito View Post
    All created images will be lossless??
    Even if i use ms paint ,will it compressed while saving??
    If you choose bmp, it will be 8bit uncompressed (large filesizes)

    If you choose png, it will be 8bit lossless compressed (smaller filesizes)
    .bmp and .png both are lossless formats
    Then why bmp has large file size and png has low file size..

    does png format's lossless compression algorithm is better then bmp??

    bmp is uncompressed (no compression)

    png uses lossless compression. If you decompress png to bmp, you get the same thing as if you saved as bmp in the first place.

    There are slightly different types of png compression , but all of them are lossless. png are slower to compress and decompress than bmp assuming you do not have transfer bottlenecks (eg. slow hard drive)
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    Originally Posted by kirito View Post
    does png format's lossless compression algorithm is better then bmp??
    bmp is uncompressed format, there is no "compression algorithm" in it.
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    png will also display same quality like bmp?
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    Yes, that's what "LOSSLESS" means.


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    Thanks I'll try some drawing ,btw any one know good and simple game engine for windows..which uses simple programing language
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    IMO, Good and simple are mutually exclusive with game engines. I would recommend using a known powerful standard, such as Unreal.

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    I'll try ,thanks
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    Originally Posted by kirito View Post
    Thanks I'll try some drawing ,btw any one know good and simple game engine for windows..which uses simple programing language
    First you need to know what you need, I was touching Source engine, Spring Engine.
    If you didn't know what bmp/png is, then you'll have looong path to walk, it won't be "simple".
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    I'll watch some videos on YouTube before starting
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  19. Originally Posted by poisondeathray View Post
    bmp is uncompressed (no compression)
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    bmp is uncompressed format, there is no "compression algorithm" in it.
    BMP can be compressed or not - usually RLE compression is used.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMP_file_format#Compression
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    Originally Posted by pandy View Post
    BMP can be compressed or not - usually RLE compression is used.
    BMP can be compressed, but practically it's never used nowadays.
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    Pandy is right in that bmp can be either (losslessly) compressed or uncompressed, but I disagree - my experience is that the VAST majority of bmp files out there are totally uncompressed RGB, as can be verified by their filesize, as well as peeking into their contents.


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    Because we don't live in the last century anymore. Who creates games for Amiga, anyone?
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    I wanna create a simple game in game engine which will display animation from image sequence at some fps and also play a soundtrack in background
    for image sequence i am finding a software which will generate lossless png sequence of txt animation or any animation,
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  24. Originally Posted by VoodooFX View Post
    Because we don't live in the last century anymore. Who creates games for Amiga, anyone?
    Some of them are available as preorder, some of them are WIP - bellow only few examples - there is more.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CliGgY8v1fM

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UE4nOYc0RkA

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gB9-7OxBSEs

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ugx0uhPYzdk
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  25. Originally Posted by kirito View Post
    I wanna create a simple game in game engine which will display animation from image sequence
    Have you tried Scratch? Not exactly a gaming engine, but you can write simple games with it too.
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    i found one game engine which is very lightweight and easy to start with it
    game engine's name is love2d
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  27. anything would work. Unless you are talking about smartphone apps, every single program should have either png or bmp as an option
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