Can't find a way to convert to Bink losslessly

[SlyCooperReloadCoded]

I'm working on a modding project for a game which uses Bink video and I need to convert a lot of MP4 videos to Bink. I'm using RAD Video Tools, but I can't find a way to convert them to Bink and have the output look EXACTLY like the originals. The MP4 files are lossless but no matter what settings I use in RAD Video Tools, it always comes out looking ultra compressed and blocky. Is there a hidden "lossless" option somewhere? This entire week-long project will be all for nothing if the resulting Bink video files don't look EXACTLY like the MP4s.

[sum_guy]

MP4 is a container for a lot of different compression codecs, what exact codec did you use? Please upload a sample so that we can be more helpful.

[LigH.de]

Bink 1 is not a high-quality video format. It is always lossy, and quite heavily, due to the vintage video encoding algorithm.

[SlyCooperReloadCoded]

Yes but the game's own Bink videos are near-perfect quality and they use Bink 1. It's a AAA game, how do THEY do it?

[poisondeathray]

Did you try increasing the data rate instead of "automatic" ?

Increasing the peak data rate should help too

[poisondeathray]

eg.

bink default settings - blocky artifacts , detail loss

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bink high bitrate , 17x the size as bink default, ~2.5x larger than the original input file which was near lossless (libx264 crf1) (!)

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[SlyCooperReloadCoded]

The bitrate of the original MP4 videos are roughly 100000kbps, what should I input and where?

[poisondeathray]

In the compression settings:

Instead of "automatic (based on input file)", I chose "compress to a data rate (bytes)". I maxed it out in that test by pushing "9"s until no more would enter.

I also used "keep peak data rate under" , multiple of the overall data rate as "10". The default was "3"

Theoretically it should increase filesize and quality a bit more if you used intra , key at least every "1"

My input file was about 75Mb/s

If filesize is too large, adjust the settings

[SlyCooperReloadCoded]

Unfortunately this doesn't quite work. Despite me setting "Force (no adding or removing) to 60 FPS", this still forces the framerate to 30. I swear to God, Bink has existed well before 2013 yet it's the least-documented format in existence. Where's the Bink forums? Where's the SDK? Where's the support guides? Where's the tutorials? This forum is the only place on the entirety of the internet that I've seen a single person ever talk about Bink video, and the best this forum can do is "I have no idea, maybe try this?". Completely ridiculous. How can something be so widely-used yet so undocumented?

RAD just gives us barebones tools with incredibly vague instructions, leaving most features undocumented.

[poisondeathray]

Unfortunately this doesn't quite work. Despite me setting "Force (no adding or removing) to 60 FPS", this still forces the framerate to 30. I swear to God, Bink has existed well before 2013 yet it's the least-documented format in existence. Where's the Bink forums? Where's the SDK? Where's the support guides? Where's the tutorials? This forum is the only place on the entirety of the internet that I've seen a single person ever talk about Bink video, and the best this forum can do is "I have no idea, maybe try this?". Completely ridiculous. How can something be so widely-used yet so undocumented?

RAD just gives us barebones tools with incredibly vague instructions, leaving most features undocumented.

Works for me.

I just tested a 60/1 fps file. The output was ok, 60/1 fps. I didn't force anything in the frame rate control. Input fps = output fps

If it bothers you so much, don't use it

[SlyCooperReloadCoded]

Whoopsies! It didn't, something else happened, this looks really nice! I'll report back if anything else weird happens.