hardware setup for VHS digitization and upscaling home tapes - suggestions?

[ghost2k8]

fortunately I found in basement a JVC hr s9600, I would like to rip my home VHS tapes, can you help me in choosing what else I need. my thoughts after research:

1. JVC HR s9600 + Canon HV20 + PCIE Firewire card + upscaling in post prod software
2. JVC HR s9600 + DMR-EZ48V and after rip DVD
3. JVC HR s9600 + advc 110 + Blackmagic Intensity Pro 4K + upscaling in post prod software
4. JVC HR s9600 + mini upscaler rca to hdmi (15-30$) + hdmi grabber

any other options ? suggestions?

[lordsmurf]

HDMI / upscale = bad idea
HV20? Does it encode DV? I didn't think so.
ADVC110 passable for PAL

JVC 9600
> some form of frame TBC (ES15 at worst, though non-TBC frame sync with line TBC)
> quality SD analog capture card

More ideal is an actual TBC. Not-really sorta-kinda non-TBCs have issues.
Remember: Buy it, use it, resell it.

[ghost2k8]

ADVC110 passable for PAL

most of my home tapes is PAL

JVC 9600
> some form of frame TBC (ES15 at worst, though non-TBC frame sync with line TBC)
> quality SD analog capture card

i can grab es-10 for 25$ or es-20 for 50$? which i should chose?
any suggestion about SD analog capture card?

Remember: Buy it, use it, resell it.

if its goes well with my tapes, maybe i stay in the business

[lordsmurf]

ES20 does not have a line TBC.
ES10 does (strong+crippled).

[ghost2k8]

do any of you have good experience with capture NTSC VHS on PAL VCR?
and how does this process look like? what devices do you use for this?

[jagabo]

PAL VHS players output PAL60 when playing NTSC tapes. That is a hybrid signal with NTSC timing (59.94 fields per second) and chroma on PAL 4.43 MHz carrier (not NTSC 3.58 MHz chroma carrier).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PAL#Home_devices_and_PAL_60

Most capture devices don't work support PAL60 and deliver a greyscale image (because they're looking for colors in the wrong place). Be sure to get a capture device that supports PAL60. Then capture at 720x480, 29.97 frames per second.

[ghost2k8]

PAL VHS players output PAL60 when playing NTSC tapes. That is a hybrid signal with NTSC timing (59.94 fields per second) and chroma on PAL 4.43 MHz carrier (not NTSC 3.58 MHz chroma carrier).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PAL#Home_devices_and_PAL_60

Most capture devices don't work support PAL60 and deliver a greyscale image (because they're looking for colors in the wrong place). Be sure to get a capture device that supports PAL60. Then capture at 720x480, 29.97 frames per second.

but that means it is possible to do it in good quality?

[jagabo]

It will be about the same as capturing from an NTSC VHS deck. But the best quality for VHS requires an S-VHS deck with line time base corrector. S-VHS decks in good working condition cost about US$500 these days. Second best would be good VHS deck and a DVD recorder with line TBC in passthrough mode.

[ghost2k8]

It will be about the same as capturing from an NTSC VHS deck. But the best quality for VHS requires an S-VHS deck with line time base corrector. S-VHS decks in good working condition cost about US$500 these days. Second best would be good VHS deck and a DVD recorder with line TBC in passthrough mode.

sounds good for me , wghich one will be better for that?

JVC -s5950 or Panasonic-830?

[jagabo]

I don't know much about them myself. Maybe someone else will have some recommendations.

http://www.digitalfaq.com/forum/video-restore/1567-vcr-buying-guide.html

Of course, the one that's in better shape may be better even though it originally wasn't as good as the other.