Hello all.
I downloaded (via IDM) a 4k 60p video from this channel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZrjDRCozbQ
I tried to play it with VLC player, but I it wouldn't play. The screen would go crazy!
Could you please download that video and let me know if you can play it?
I want to see if I have a software issue or is my hardware not adequate for doe playing 4k 60p files.
This is my computer's specs:
Ram: 12 GB
VGA: 2 Gb
CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4720HQ CPU @ 2.60GHz 2.59 GHz
If this is hardware problem, what has to change? This is a laptop, though.
If VLC is not powerful enough to play 4k 60 videos, what player should I use?
I can play ordinary 4K videos (not 60) and also 2k 60 videos just fine.
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Last edited by kameralover; 7th Nov 2021 at 13:52.
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I won't download the file because it will take hours to download 5.44GB with my slow broadband Internet service. However, FireDM allowed me to see that the download would be a WebM file so I can make an educated guess.
WebM typically uses VP9 for 4K. Your i7-4720HQ processor provides Intel HD graphics 4600 and your post doesn't mention any other GPU. Intel HD graphics 4600 can't decode VP9 using Quick Sync Video, which means the 2160p60 video must be decoded with software using the CPU alone. That is a heavy lift for a CPU.Last edited by usually_quiet; 7th Nov 2021 at 15:51.
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Unfortunately, you don't have enough computer horsepower for a VP9 60 file. It plays fine on my XPS13 laptop with Intel UHD 620 graphics.
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I don't know what you mean by "screen would go crazy" but the "best" video there is HDR and won't look right without an HDR monitor.
Code:ID EXT RESOLUTION FPS | FILESIZE TBR PROTO | VCODEC VBR ACODEC ABR ASR MORE INFO --- ---- ---------- --- - ---------- ------ ----- - ----------- ------ --------- ---- ------- --------------------------------- 139 m4a audio only | 9.38MiB 48k https | mp4a.40.5 48k 22050Hz low, m4a_dash 249 webm audio only | 9.09MiB 47k https | opus 47k 48000Hz low, webm_dash 250 webm audio only | 12.00MiB 62k https | opus 62k 48000Hz low, webm_dash 140 m4a audio only | 24.88MiB 129k https | mp4a.40.2 129k 44100Hz medium, m4a_dash 251 webm audio only | 23.96MiB 124k https | opus 124k 48000Hz medium, webm_dash 17 3gp 176x144 8 | 14.23MiB 74k https | mp4v.20.3 74k mp4a.40.2 0k 22050Hz 144p 160 mp4 256x144 30 | 16.52MiB 85k https | avc1.4d400c 85k 144p, mp4_dash 278 webm 256x144 30 | 16.61MiB 86k https | vp9 86k 144p, webm_dash 330 webm 256x144 60 | 46.25MiB 240k https | vp9.2 240k 144p60 HDR, webm_dash 133 mp4 426x240 30 | 37.52MiB 195k https | avc1.4d4015 195k 240p, mp4_dash 242 webm 426x240 30 | 36.01MiB 187k https | vp9 187k 240p, webm_dash 331 webm 426x240 60 | 94.84MiB 493k https | vp9.2 493k 240p60 HDR, webm_dash 134 mp4 640x360 30 | 72.46MiB 377k https | avc1.4d401e 377k 360p, mp4_dash 18 mp4 640x360 30 | 141.46MiB 736k https | avc1.42001E 736k mp4a.40.2 0k 44100Hz 360p 243 webm 640x360 30 | 77.11MiB 401k https | vp9 401k 360p, webm_dash 332 webm 640x360 60 | 201.70MiB 1049k https | vp9.2 1049k 360p60 HDR, webm_dash 135 mp4 854x480 30 | 116.88MiB 608k https | avc1.4d401f 608k 480p, mp4_dash 244 webm 854x480 30 | 142.70MiB 742k https | vp9 742k 480p, webm_dash 333 webm 854x480 60 | 378.20MiB 1967k https | vp9.2 1967k 480p60 HDR, webm_dash 22 mp4 1280x720 30 | 2208k https | avc1.64001F 2208k mp4a.40.2 0k 44100Hz 720p 136 mp4 1280x720 30 | 399.67MiB 2079k https | avc1.4d401f 2079k 720p (maybe throttled), mp4_dash 247 webm 1280x720 30 | 284.12MiB 1478k https | vp9 1478k 720p (maybe throttled), webm_dash 298 mp4 1280x720 60 | 646.20MiB 3362k https | avc1.4d4020 3362k 720p60, mp4_dash 302 webm 1280x720 60 | 494.96MiB 2575k https | vp9 2575k 720p60, webm_dash 334 webm 1280x720 60 | 860.83MiB 4479k https | vp9.2 4479k 720p60 HDR, webm_dash 299 mp4 1920x1080 60 | 1.08GiB 5748k https | avc1.64002a 5748k 1080p60, mp4_dash 303 webm 1920x1080 60 | 835.90MiB 4349k https | vp9 4349k 1080p60, webm_dash 335 webm 1920x1080 60 | 1.29GiB 6850k https | vp9.2 6850k 1080p60 HDR, webm_dash 308 webm 2560x1440 60 | 2.46GiB 13098k https | vp9 13098k 1440p60, webm_dash 336 webm 2560x1440 60 | 3.05GiB 16258k https | vp9.2 16258k 1440p60 HDR, webm_dash 315 webm 3840x2160 60 | 4.96GiB 26433k https | vp9 26433k 2160p60, webm_dash 337 webm 3840x2160 60 | 5.44GiB 28977k https | vp9.2 28977k 2160p60 HDR, webm_dash
Last edited by jagabo; 7th Nov 2021 at 16:43.
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Yes.
I had Intel HD 4600 Graphics on my old Haswell desktop. QSV could decode VP8 and 8-bit HEVC but that processor generation's iGPUs are too old to have QSV support for VP9 and 10-bit HEVC or HDR pass-through.
I have Intel UHD 630 graphics on my two current desktops. QSV can decode VP9, AV1, and 10-bit HEVC. Plus there's support for HDR pass-through for HDR10 and Dolby Vision.
[Edit]It turns out that I misremembered. Intel UHD 630 QSV doesn't support AV1 decoding. Support for AV1 decoding is available with Tiger Lake, Rocket Lake, and Alder Lake. The chart on the Wikipedia page for QSV looks like a fairly good reference for comparing the QSV features for various Intel processor families.
I can't find an Intel reference to confirm it but that Wikipedia page says Haswell processors QSV can't decode VP8 or 8-bit HEVC either. So, it looks like I'm wrong there too. My memory just ain't what it used to be.Last edited by usually_quiet; 7th Nov 2021 at 21:14.
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Actually, my laptop has 2 graphics card. One is Intel. The other is a 2gb Nvidia GTX 960M.
So, is there a way I can put the more powerful video card to use for these videos?
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Still not going to play that video, GTX960M supports H.264, VC1, MPEG2 1080p video decoder
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Actually, when I download the video via Internet Download Manager, I can play this resolution just fine:
336 webm 2560x1440 60 | 3.05GiB 16258k https | vp9.2 16258k 1440p60 HDR, webm_dash
This is still vp9.2.
Although, when you download with IDM, you get a MKV file not webm.
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Maybe your CPU is powerful enough to decode VP9.2 at 1440p60 using software but not VP9.2 at 2160p60. Also, VLC can tone-map HDR video to simulate HDR on a non-HDR display.
Laptop graphics cards are usually soldered in place and not removable.Ignore list: hello_hello, tried, TechLord, Snoopy329 -
As far as I know, graphics cards on laptops are typically not upgradeable..
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Last edited by usually_quiet; 8th Nov 2021 at 15:46. Reason: grammar
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Laptops usually have half the horsepower for the same cost of desktop computers so unless you need a laptop best to get a desktop.
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I downloaded the 854x480 version and put it up on my LG TV. Appears to be HDR HLG.
Even at that low-res, it looks pretty good
What's the point of downloading the 4k version if it's beyond the native screen resolution?
Might as well download 1080p -
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I realized VLC doesn't use my GPU when I play heavy files:
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I still think if there is a way the software part can be optimized, my laptop can play 4k 60fps. -
Some of the best minds (myself excluded) here on Videohelp have already explained, it won't play it. Time to bury the thread.
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It's funny you should say that. I actually found a way to make the NVIDIA my primary GPU processor and now my laptop plays 4k 60FPS smoothly!
I realized NVIDIA wasn't being used before and I changed that.
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Now, could someone please try playing 8k offline?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTtBDJn1Lqg -
Yes, but your display isn't 4k so you are not actually getting 4k, you're playing a lower resolution. The max resolution of your GTX is H.264, VC1, MPEG2 1080p video decoder...
Last edited by sum_guy; 24th Nov 2021 at 17:09.
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When I get a new laptop (after Christmas) I'll try it. Based on the specs, in theory, the laptop I want can play that 8K video, although on a regular 1080p display. The Intel i5-1135G7 processor's Iris Xe Graphics can decode AV1 video and provides DisplayPort 1.4, which supports 8K video at 60fps. However, it only has 8GB of RAM so that could be an insurmountable limitation.
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Here you go, here's an 8k sample - 2mb, I was not able to play it on my Dell XPS with Intel UHD 620, I get audio but no video.
https://files.videohelp.com/u/84671/Ghost%20Towns%20in%208K%20(FUHD%204320p).mkvIt's not important the problem be solved, only that the blame for the mistake is assigned correctly -
Well I botched that nicely, I'll try for another 8k sample, they seem hard to find, no shortage of 4k
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There is an 8K video here on this page:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTtBDJn1Lqg
But no computer in the world can play it offline! I hope software developers optimize these players so that they can play 8k smoothly. -
The problem I'm running into is in actually downloading an 8k video. Yes, I can play them on Youtube but they are downsampled, if I try to download them they are downsampled.
It's not important the problem be solved, only that the blame for the mistake is assigned correctly
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