Panasonic DVD recorder passthrough settings (DMR-ES10, DMR-ES15, DMR-ES25)

[Thermaltake]

Anyone tried passthrough with DMR-EZ28K ?

[Sharc]

* - I was a bit surprised that it records in 704x576 and not 720x576

704+black borders is normal for Panasonics

Well, the successors of ES10 already recorded in 720x576 (DMR-EH57 etc.).

I assume that those with HDMI output would record in 720x576.
But how is it output on the S-Video OUT? As 704+2*8 sidebars, or as 720x576 filled with picture content?

MPEG2 (HDD/DVD) also records in 720x576.
PAR (HDMI output) is exactly the same as ES10 with its 704x576 (12:11). Of course DAR is different.

Screenshots with PAR 1:1.

No big surprise.
Your ES10 screenshot is the 704x576 picture expanded by SAR 12/11 -> 768x576 (your screenshot 1)
The EH585 HDMI picture got deinterlaced, slightly cropped on the left (about 8 pixels into the active picture) and padded (or overscanned) to 720 adding black borders, then expanded by SAR 12/11 -> 785x576 (your screenshot 2).
As a capture and master for postprocessing I prefer the interlaced ES10 version.

[rgr]

wow it really clears the picture and stabilize it.

Remember that the quality of both frames is not comparable, because the ES10 frame is interlaced and the EH585 frame is deinterlaced (which improves its quality). The images were only to show aspect ratio.

[rgr]

MPEG2 (HDD/DVD) also records in 720x576.
PAR (HDMI output) is exactly the same as ES10 with its 704x576 (12:11). Of course DAR is different.

Screenshots with PAR 1:1.

No big surprise.
Your ES10 screenshot is the 704x576 picture expanded by SAR 12/11 -> 768x576 (your screenshot 1)
The EH585 HDMI picture got deinterlaced, slightly cropped on the left (about 8 pixels into the active picture) and padded (or overscanned) to 720 adding black borders, then expanded by SAR 12/11 -> 785x576 (your screenshot 2).

Yes.

As a capture and master for postprocessing I prefer the interlaced ES10 version.

Right. Unfortunately, my HDMI grabber cannot capture interlaced video. But you don't lose much, because I see Panasonic makes quite a simple and reversible deinterlace. When the OSD is on the screen, it looks even better than QTGMC with default settings.

[Thermaltake]

wow it really clears the picture and stabilize it.

Remember that the quality of both frames is not comparable, because the ES10 frame is interlaced and the EH585 frame is deinterlaced (which improves its quality). The images were only to show aspect ratio.

So If I capture with ES10 passthrough with JVC S9760E picture quality should be better ? As I see on most comparison here.

[Sharc]

wow it really clears the picture and stabilize it.

Remember that the quality of both frames is not comparable, because the ES10 frame is interlaced and the EH585 frame is deinterlaced (which improves its quality). The images were only to show aspect ratio.

So If I capture with ES10 passthrough with JVC S9760E picture quality should be better ? As I see on most comparison here.

Yes. Just do it.

[Thermaltake]

wow it really clears the picture and stabilize it.

Remember that the quality of both frames is not comparable, because the ES10 frame is interlaced and the EH585 frame is deinterlaced (which improves its quality). The images were only to show aspect ratio.

So If I capture with ES10 passthrough with JVC S9760E picture quality should be better ? As I see on most comparison here.

Yes. Just do it.

Do I need to turn off all enhancements on my vcr like video stabilization, tbc and B.E.S.T when I connect ES10 ?

[rgr]

Turn off video stabilization, it works terrible. BEST on + mode: edit (just below BEST setting).

[Thermaltake]

Turn off video stabilization, it works terrible. BEST on + mode: edit (just below BEST setting).

Thank. And TBC will turn off on it's own when I connect passthrough or I need to do it manually ?

[Thermaltake]

Got dvd player today ES10 but need to recap to whole PSU unite, it has 2 leaked and 1 buldged cap. It's working but funny working.


EDIT:
Ordered all caps, going to replace all 13 caps on power supply board. And two funny RJX and RJF caps on motherboard, hoping after that everything will be ok, I clean the player, clean the lens everything looks great now inside, except those caps that needs replacement.

[rgr]

Turn off video stabilization, it works terrible. BEST on + mode: edit (just below BEST setting).

Thank. And TBC will turn off on it's own when I connect passthrough or I need to do it manually ?

And I don't know that. It's best to download the manual, it is generally useful to read the "Playback" section. Perhaps in models with TBC the "video stabilizer" option refers to the TBC.

[Thermaltake]

Ok, will do. Thanks.

[dellsam34]

Ok, will do.

I noticed something on my VCR while digitalizing tapes. When my VCR is cold and when I insert tape to record same tape that I record the day after when VCR was hot, it record it without any sutter or maybe just one stutter in like hour maybe even without any. Why is that ? Could it be that capacitors are weak or something ?

This is not the right section to post for VCR problems, This is for DVD recorders.

[Thermaltake]

Ok, will do.

I noticed something on my VCR while digitalizing tapes. When my VCR is cold and when I insert tape to record same tape that I record the day after when VCR was hot, it record it without any sutter or maybe just one stutter in like hour maybe even without any. Why is that ? Could it be that capacitors are weak or something ?

This is not the right section to post for VCR problems, This is for DVD recorders.

Sorry my bad.