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  1. Dears,

    following my other post here

    I would like to still understand how to extract only audio track from DVD movie without any degradation in terms of quality, size or avoid re-encoding to other video formats and then extracting audio part, etc. In my other post where i was unsuccessfully looking for tool which can do the job in macOS.

    Now i have decided to try to look for a tool under WindowsOS.
    One recommendation was to try "Pgcdemux" (thanks to ProWo), It did the job, however all three existing audio tracks from DVD had same AC3 file size, odd.

    Meanwhile i have tried also to load the DVD vob files into Audacity, you can load only one VOB file, but you can save into AC3. At the end you have to join all AC3 from separate VOBs. What is odd, that the final AC3 file size is very different from the final AC3 file size from Pgcdemux tool.

    Based on this findings i am not 100% convinced that one or other software is doing it right.
    Please advice, or better enlight me.

    Kind Regards,
    VLP
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  2. Originally Posted by vlp_007 View Post
    Now i have decided to try to look for a tool under WindowsOS.
    One recommendation was to try "Pgcdemux" (thanks to ProWo), It did the job, however all three existing audio tracks from DVD had same AC3 file size, odd.
    Why odd? You have extracted 3 audio tracks with different languages, i suppose.
    Where is the problem?
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  3. There were Three languages in total

    1) Language A - 1.0 = 163MB AC3
    2) Language A - 2.0 = 163MB AC3
    3) Language B - 2.0 = 163MB AC3

    Why all of them had exact same file size, while each of them is different quality or language

    example:
    i was expecting something like

    1) Language A - 1.0 = 120 MB AC3
    2) Language A - 2.0 = 157 MB AC3
    3) Language B - 2.0 = 163 MB AC3
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  4. All audio tracks must have the same length of the videotrack to be in synch
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  5. Originally Posted by ProWo View Post
    All audio tracks must have the same length of the videotrack to be in synch
    Sure, lenght (timing yes), but size of the exported file also same? What if one track has better quality then other? Why the lower quality track has the same exported file size then?
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  6. I think they have all the same quality.
    Post a mediainfo report (text mode) of all 3 ac3 here.
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    Well you can inspect the files using mediainfo.


    But I suspect that each file has the same bitrate. Filesize = runlength * bitrate


    Typically you get two types of audio. A LPCM track which will be a significantly larger size due to the bitrate and an ac3 track which is what you see here.
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  8. Originally Posted by ProWo View Post
    I think they have all the same quality.
    Post a mediainfo report (text mode) of all 3 ac3 here.
    i am sorry you were right! i Moved one of the VOB into mediainfo:
    Also i have went and opened other DVD9 and it had different results. So it seems i should stick with Pgcdemux
    So, i am sorry for my own mistake. I wanted to have it right


    General
    Complete name : /VIDEO_TS/VTS_01_1.VOB
    Format : MPEG-PS
    File size : 1 000 MiB
    Duration : 16 min 20 s
    Overall bit rate mode : Variable
    Overall bit rate : 8 559 kb/s

    Video
    ID : 224 (0xE0)
    Format : MPEG Video
    Format version : Version 2
    Format profile : Main@Main
    Format settings : CustomMatrix / BVOP
    Format settings, BVOP : Yes
    Format settings, Matrix : Custom
    Format settings, GOP : Variable
    Duration : 16 min 20 s
    Bit rate mode : Variable
    Bit rate : 7 813 kb/s
    Maximum bit rate : 9 800 kb/s
    Width : 720 pixels
    Height : 576 pixels
    Display aspect ratio : 4:3
    Frame rate : 25.000 FPS
    Standard : PAL
    Color space : YUV
    Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
    Bit depth : 8 bits
    Scan type : Progressive
    Scan order : Top Field First
    Compression mode : Lossy
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.754
    Time code of first frame : 00:59:59:00
    Time code source : Group of pictures header
    Stream size : 913 MiB (91%)

    Audio #1
    ID : 189 (0xBD)-128 (0x80)
    Format : AC-3
    Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
    Commercial name : Dolby Digital
    Muxing mode : DVD-Video
    Duration : 16 min 20 s
    Bit rate mode : Constant
    Bit rate : 192 kb/s
    Channel(s) : 2 channels
    Channel layout : L R
    Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
    Frame rate : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
    Compression mode : Lossy
    Stream size : 22.4 MiB (2%)
    Service kind : Complete Main

    Audio #2
    ID : 189 (0xBD)-129 (0x81)
    Format : AC-3
    Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
    Commercial name : Dolby Digital
    Format settings : Dolby Surround
    Muxing mode : DVD-Video
    Duration : 16 min 20 s
    Bit rate mode : Constant
    Bit rate : 192 kb/s
    Channel(s) : 2 channels
    Channel layout : L R
    Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
    Frame rate : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
    Compression mode : Lossy
    Stream size : 22.4 MiB (2%)
    Service kind : Complete Main

    Audio #3
    ID : 189 (0xBD)-130 (0x82)
    Format : AC-3
    Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
    Commercial name : Dolby Digital
    Format settings : Dolby Surround
    Muxing mode : DVD-Video
    Duration : 16 min 20 s
    Bit rate mode : Constant
    Bit rate : 192 kb/s
    Channel(s) : 2 channels
    Channel layout : L R
    Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
    Frame rate : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
    Compression mode : Lossy
    Stream size : 22.4 MiB (2%)
    Service kind : Complete Main

    Text
    ID : 189 (0xBD)-32 (0x20)
    Format : RLE
    Format/Info : Run-length encoding
    Muxing mode : DVD-Video

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    Also you may find this easier to use than pgcdemux


    https://www.videohelp.com/software/DGMPGDec
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  10. Originally Posted by DB83 View Post
    Also you may find this easier to use than pgcdemux


    https://www.videohelp.com/software/DGMPGDec
    Thank you for help and patience. I havent really expected that all three tracks will have the same bitrate.
    I will continue to learn, and will try the DGMPGDec as well (and compare the results )
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