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  1. I'm looking for a Windows tool, preferably free, that can automatically pan and scan 2.35:1 and 16:9 videos to 4:3.
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  2. How would an automatic pan and scan know what you want to keep in the frame?
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  4. How would it know for instance if you have two characters in a scene placed left and right, which one to show? It would not always be the one who is talking as there may be a facial reaction from the other to what is being said.
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    Why do you need 4:3 output?

    Can you make anamorphic video instead?
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  6. Originally Posted by rowjekto View Post
    I'm looking for a Windows tool, preferably free, that can automatically pan and scan 2.35:1 and 16:9 videos to 4:3.
    There's no such thing.
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    P&S is an artistic compromise, best left to the Humans who produced the material in the first place. You want to put those choices in the hands of a dumb automated (or AI or ML, whatever) system? You get what you paid for.



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  8. What is the best way to manually pan and scan 2.35:1 and 16:9 videos to 4:3?
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    Originally Posted by rowjekto View Post
    What is the best way to manually pan and scan 2.35:1 and 16:9 videos to 4:3?
    manually frame by frame


    no other way to keep the best part of the action. at best it sucks.
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  10. Which Windows tool is the best for this?
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    Proper (paid-for) video editing programs can do this easily. For example, Movie Edit Pro allows you to crop to whatever frame size/ratio you like and easily pan across the wide video to keep the subject in the reduced-width frame.
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  12. kden live can do the job too
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  13. I've came across Adobe Premiere Pro's feature "Auto Reframe" which supposed to automatically pan and scan videos.
    However, there are two problems that prevent me from using this feature:
    1. This is very expensive.
    2. My PC doesn't match the minimum system requirements.
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    What is the best way to manually pan and scan 2.35:1 and 16:9 videos to 4:3?
    FFMpeg --> Crop it and Set DAR/aspect
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    I use Vegas Pro 13, It is not automatic but sort of semi automatic, You work scene by scene instead of frame by frame. You set the start and end keyframes positions of the scene being worked on and the software moves the 4:3 window horizontally across the wide frame from the start position to final position as set by the keyframes, you can do multiple positions if you don't want linear motion, say from position A to B the frame moves slow then from B to C it moves faster, pretty neat. I've been working on T2 from a widscreen frame to make a high quality 4:3 version for learning purposes.

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  16. "I was a nice little kid. Hollywood fucked me up, man!"
    "I was sick and tired of being sick and tired."
    Edward Furlong, 2006
    (I know the feeling, minus the Hollywood part... and the drug part...)

    I've been working on T2 from a widscreen frame to make a high quality 4:3 version for learning purposes.
    DON'T DO DAT.
    At least remove those extra scenes from the “director's cut” / “Skynet” or whatever extended editions, to balance out with something actually beneficial to that masterpiece of a movie ! Sad thing is that those mostly cringeworthy scenes have now become an integral part of the movie as it is known and watched today, even though they were originally cut for a good reason. (And while we're at it, remove the equally cringeworthy line “I need a vacation” — don't remember if it was in the original theatrical release, but it does NOT fit the mood of the otherwise gloomy and tragic ending AT ALL, besides that kind of humor is not even halfway plausible from a robot — sorry, a zybernedic organizm — with such a rudimentary approach to language learning and behaviour mimicking. However cheesy most of T3 might have been, at least they got the mood of the crucial last 10 minutes right, consistently gloomy as it should be, with no lousy wisecrack from the wide cracked sidetracked killing machine. Another sad thing is that Edward Furlong, precisely because he was then in such a dreadful downward spiral, would have made a far more believable young adult John Connor — regardless of the fact that it was his role in the first place. And another sad thing is that they continued after that, thoroughly butchering the legacy of a once awe-inspiring franchise. I've read and heard extremely contradictory comments regarding the 6th installment, ranging from “best since T2” to “industrial disaster of epic proportions” ; considering that similar statements were made about the 5th, my general feeling tends toward the latter, especially after watching this.)

    “Just as the passage of time teaches us that our parents aren't infallible and the government isn't populated by our best and brightest, so too does it ravage our greatest actors, turning them from quixotic artistes into by-the-numbers paycheck whores. Time replaces the edgy Robert De Niro of Taxi Driver and Raging Bull with the family friendly Analyze This version, while venerated talents such as Jack Nicholson and Gene Hackman stop making films like The Last Detail and The Conversation in favor of lowest common denominator bilge like The Bucket List and Runaway Jury. And then there's Pacino, whose knack for accepting almost every role offered him has obviously served as an example for contemporaries like Hilary Swank.”
    (From here.)

    At least Robert Patrick became a very funny old man...

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    My post was not about the movie, it is about what tool to use for pan and scan, I appreciate your critique but I cannot expand on it since it is off topic and the thread is not mine.
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