PAL compatible device for standalone vhs capture (no pc)

[superduck]

I'm currently using a PAL VHS player (Panasonic NV-FJ710) going into a scart to hdmi converter and into a "no-brand" hdmi capture box which captures straight to a USB stick. I then run my ffmpeg script to stitch the clips together and correct the aspect ratio but the box captures at 60fps and has no settings you can change.

All the standalone capture devices I've found advertise 30 or 60fps and I've not been able to find any that specify 25/50 - does anyone know of any? I'm not married to the scart to hdmi setup I'm just using what I had to hand, I'm just looking for the simplest standalone setup without tying up my pc all day.

Thanks!

[DB83]

Are you certain the capture is 60 frames per second and not 60 fields per second ie 30 fps.


But if the capture box has no setting for 25 fps what about the scart >> hdmi converter ?


But if 30 fps is the only option there is likely to be a duplicate frame every 5.


It may be useful to provide purchase links for both the converter and the capture box. These boxes do tend AFAIK simply to record the signal as it receives it. No conversion is done.

[krykmoon]

I just saw this box suggested on another thread few minutes ago..

https://www.avermedia.com/us/product-detail/ER330

If you look at the complete specifics .. it accepts both PAL and NTSC as input, while output (with PAL) is at 50fps.

It doesn't require a PC to work, you can simply connect it to an external disk.

[superduck]

The file info on windows says 60.00fps. The HDMI converter appears to be this one but with a "consolegoods" branding instead.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Converter-Tendak-Composite-Upscaler-Nintendo-S-video-HDMI/dp/B00V2ULHBS

There's no branding or info on the capture box (I bought it years ago and can't find a receipt unfortunately) but attached is a photo if that at all helps!

[DB83]

Well if the converter is the same as your albeit a different label then that is what is doing the conversion to 60 fps not the recorder.


But native interlaced 25 fps to progressive 60 fps is going to be 'messy'. These units are more suited for game consoles than VHS.

[superduck]

Thank you! It didn't even cross my mind it could be the adapter causing the trouble. In which case, I'll probably give the Avermedia ER330 a go.

[dellsam34]

Your problem has nothing to do with the composite to HDMI adapter, It's the HDMI capture device. Though this workflow is not the right way to capture VHS anyway.

[orsetto]

I've got a couple of those HDMI converter boxes: look just like yours (same case & logo) but operate in reverse direction (HDMI>Composite/S-Video). If the video quality of your Composite/S-Video>HDMI is anything like my units, results would be mediocre at best. These things muddy the color and sharpness noticeably: adequate for some niche purposes, but probably not a good choice for HDMI capture. Almost any DVD recorder used in passthru mode to convert analog VHS input to HDMI output would give cleaner output than a generic converter box.