OK ...I GIVE....AFTER 2 MONTHS

[sirgray]

Ok everyone,
I have tried and tried but I cannot get a file to view
with DVD Quality after converting from AVI TO DVD.
I have been trying for two months, have wasted about
70 tapes and now have went out and bouit a DVD -RW
burner thinking that things would get better.
But I can view the avi file on a smalll browser , but
when I make the file full screen I started loasing color
and clarity. Not to mention I can get a clear dvd queality
like DVD -RW disc.
Can someone work with me one-on -one and help me make
DVD -RW discs? I've invested to much to quit, but I just don't
know what to do? I need help and I need it bad.

I need all the hepl I can get. Please let me know how we
can get together and you can help me. I'm staying up late
but not getting anywhere.
HEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLLLPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP!!!

[resnullius]

i might not be able to help you with the dvd-rw part as i don't have one though i know the theory behind it so maybe i can. As for the video part, I'm guessing you've been downloading the videos and their quality is not very good, right? if so there not much that can be done except maybe smooth out a bit of the pixelazition... if you're going to convert downloaded stuff you should probably consider vcd instead of dvd. If however you're ripping dvd's than that's a whole other story... Give a bit more details like that we can help you better...

[sirgray]

Sorry for all the misspellings. It was close to 2:00AM and I was getting very tired. I'm not sure if the download quality is bad, because it plays very clear in TMPGenc Plus's preview screen. It also plays clear in neoDVD preview. It doesn't play clear when I play it in PowerDVD at the regular size(full size) screen. My process I'm using is:

Convert from AVI to MPEG with TMPGenc Plus
Convert the MPEG file to DVD with neoDVD

But before I convert it to DVD I preview the MPEG file in neoDVD and in PowerDVD and it doesn't play clear. Does someone have a better solution or process I should try.

Help!!! I'm getting very desperate after reading forums and working so hard on this process.

[fakesky]

You are very lucky if you can get anything downloaded
(except very good SVCD or a real dvd image)
to look as good as a real dvd.
I get decent result if I use high quality divx
and convert them to svcd,
or just svcds ripped from dvd properly.

The dvd burner is the way to go if you want quality.

[resnullius]

you should see what your file looks like full sized b4 converting it... that way you might have an idea if it might look good after converting...

[vhelp]

afternoon sirgray, everybody...

* what is the resolution of these divX avi's ??
if the resoluiton is 352x240/288 then DON'T convert to a higher res.
you'll only be the results you seem to be getting. ..mostly blurryness.

* ie, if the resoution is 640x272 ? ? .. .. ..
DON'T convert to higher, ie, 480x480 or 720x480 or 352x480!!
instead, convert to 352x240/288

* is the divX file interlaced? ?
I don't think that there should be any, but just in case some of the
files you download are (maybe not divX, but some other format) then
this could also be the cause of blurryness quality

I don't know why you went out and got a DVD-RW for... I guess you really
thought that it would be DVD quality! Way too much missunderstanding
going around, and NOT much reading the "FAQ" or "what is", "how to" to
your left. Please don't be misslead to believing that you'll get the
DVD quality of ALL source materials if you go and get a DVD-RW burner!!
In short, DVD quality is Hollywood studio's equipment, etc., bla, bla...
divX source materials is NO where's near it!! AND, most of them are
vcd quality/resolution, or just plain junk!!
OH, as I was saying about the DVD-RW thing... A DVD-RW burner is NOT
DVD quality. It's just a storage medium - rather, a much LARGER storage
medium... say, 4.7gig or more.
resnullius was correct. go for vcd's instead. BUT, remember this,
if you have a divX (mpeg1) and you convert to a vcd, you'll be converting
it a 2nd time, meaning MORE loss in quality. ok?
So, for instance:
* captured source in AVI format
--> [at 100% quality]
* convert to divX, say 640x272 or 352x240 (first generation loss here)
--> [now at 70% quality]
* NOW, you wanna convert this to a vcd of your own? (2nd gen. loss here)
--> [now at 40% quality]
which means you've now lost even more of what was already taken out when
the source was converted to divX in the above step

For maximum quality of a divX source, it would be best to convert to
say, the same or lesser resoluiton. Raising the resolution higher will
NOT improve on quality, even if you burn it to a DVD-RW disk. Again,
DVD-RW is not a quality route. Its just a larger storage medium. And,
because it is such, you can, say, for instance, instead of encoding to
a VCD, you could encode to DVD specs or encod to SVCD but with much
higher bitrate without worrying about space per disk (cd'r 650mb vs.
dvd-rw 4.7gig)
But, what if you had a really good 720x480 source? Then, yes, you could
burn to a DVD spec. and on a DVD-RW disk. But, a 64x272 divX is nowhere
near DVD quality. Don't go thinking that you can go this route with a
640x270 divX source.

Ok, so now you have this divX file. And, it's resolution is at 352x240.
Now, you want to encode it to a format that is playable in your dvd
player??
Ok, then for this 352x240 divX file, you're best to encode to a VCD.
If however, you decide to enocde to a SVCD (480x480) you'll only be
blurrying the final SVCD - hence your quality problem.
* I have a 640x272 divX file. I want to encode to play on my dvd player.
again, best to encode to a 352x240 VCD to keep the quality as close as
posible. you might get away with a 480x480, but you can experiment on
this and see, but it will also depend on the quality of the divX source
to begin with. Just remember that you are re-encoding a 2nd time. And,
you DON'T EVEN KNOW if someone else had re-encoded this from another
divX!! So, it could be worse.

hmmm, But I can view the avi file on a smalll browser , but
when I make the file full screen I started loasing color
and clarity. Not to mention I can get a clear dvd queality
like DVD -RW disc.
Again, this is probably a 352x240 source. Looks good in a small window.
when you raise the resoluiton or play it full screen, quality is lost.
The reason why it looks good in a small window is because its viewed in
the same resolution (or close) and you don't really notice the poor
quality at that resolution.
TMPG's window will always give you an nice quality picture as it encodes.
But, it's kind of missleading. Not to mention that tmpg is showing only
one pic out of many. So, don't go buy it in your case.

If you wanna play these divX files on your pc, then why don't you try
windvd 3.0!! It plays 352x240 (or VCDs) w/out blocks vs. powerdvd.
powerdvd shows more blocks at these low resoluitons. You may find that
windvd is better. So, i'd give windvd a go, k?
Also, if you go the windvd playing route, a tip for you. you can vary
the brightness with the "-" and "+" keys on your numeric keypad. I keep
mind at the recommended setting of 8. So, assumging that you press the
"+" key untill the brightness is way high up, NOW press the "-" 8 times.
That is the recommended setting for viewing. But, you can use this to
adjust the brigtness to your liking, pending on your divX source or
any source for that matter

I don't know what you ment by "70 tapes"??

All my encodes are based on DV cam's miniDV tapes that I record to from
satalite. Quality is usually very good, depending on the source's
quality. I did a few samples of Star Wars this thursday, and the quality
wasn't as good as I was expecting, but still good though. I've done
many DV encodes to CVD (not 720x480) and quality (pending on the
source's quality from my satalite) was very good. I post samples from
time to time. So, you may want to check them out (keep an eye out for
when I post them)

My recommendation is to:
* capture your OWN source (ie, tv/cable/sat, etc)
* encode to vcd/svcd/dvd or whatever, provided your dvd player will play it
* burn to vcd/svcd CD-R disks, and not dvd-rw's. these are very
expensive as you already know by now

I'd burn test samples to a cd-rw disk, and not a cd-r - save yourself a
lot of headackes, he, he...

-vhelp

[mrebman]

Dude:
Do yourseld a Favor & stop beating yourself up, just make a VCD. Look, generally VCD's are VHS quality & plenty clear enough to watch. I can put a full length movie on (2) CD-R's & play it in my DVD Player & the wife thinks they look fine.
Just use TMPEnc & get the Nimo Codec Pack, Download your Divx Movie & Encode, then use TMPEnc to split the Movie & then use Nero 5.5 to Burn it, Very Simple, Very Easy & I have done it MANY times.
-Mick-

[monkey man]

The problem is simple. If your viewing a interlaced source on a computer monitor then the picture won't look at all. If you play your DVD on a set top DVD player connected to a normal then the picture will look great. Computer moniters are progressive where TV's are interlaced like the material your using (I'm assuming).

I have had wonderful results with DVD burning. I can capture from a VHS tape encode with TMPGE and the results are great, no generation loss at all. I'm using the analog to digital pass through on my camcorder to achive the capture to my computer.

Soucre material must be 720X480 or captured at to get the results I'm talking about.

[frank_spencer]

monkey man,

I'm trying to 'capture' using the same method as you.
But premere has a limit of 27000 frames (about 20min pal).Do you batch 'capture' ? what programme do you use?

[monkey man]

You need to tell Premiere to capture unlimited frames or you are running in to the 2 gig barrier of the fat32 file system. You need to get win 2000 or XP and convert your file system to NTFS. Then you can have an unlimited file size for your captures.