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  1. 4k resolution passthrough , screen size is not important,
    HDMI port
    video card that is above average in it its range for support on HDR 10 passthrough/HEVC
    O/S supports HDR10 passthrough would be a plus, but if not possible I can work around it.
    -don't play video games, but do watch high end film, so not the best processor is needed but like I said above average.
    no software needed
    1-5 tb , i don't have any other spec requests, so the less I spend on what I need/want the better. I trust your suggestions.


    let me know if you want to build me a laptop
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    I recently looked at a ThinkPad X1 Carbon Gen 8 laptop on Lenovo's website that can be configured with Windows 10 Pro 64, an i5-10210U Comet Lake mobile CPU, 16 GB RAM, a 1TB PCIe SSD, and a 14-inch 4K Dolby-Vision-certified 500 nit display. Dolby Vision probably only works for streaming, but running Windows 10, the processor graphics would support HDR-10. I looked at the user guide/manual. It doesn't mention SGX, so I don't know for sure that the motherboard BIOS supports enabling/disabling SGX imanually to allow UHD Blu-ray to be played from an external UHD Blu-ray drive. It was not inexpensive. It cost about $1940 on sale and building + shipping takes 12 weeks.

    [Edit] Generic user manual for the ThinkPad X1 Carbon Gen 8 laptop: https://download.lenovo.com/pccbbs/mobiles_pdf/x1_yoga_g5_x1_carbon_g8_ug_en.pdf

    I just looked at the HDMI video output on the laptop, and it's only HDMI 1.4, which means this laptop is not a great choice if you intend to connect it to a 4K TV.
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  3. Originally Posted by usually_quiet View Post
    I recently looked at a ThinkPad X1 Carbon Gen 8 laptop on Lenovo's website that can be configured with Windows 10 Pro 64, an i5-10210U Comet Lake mobile CPU, 16 GB RAM, a 1TB PCIe SSD, and a 14-inch 4K Dolby-Vision-certified 500 nit display. Dolby Vision probably only works for streaming, but running Windows 10, the processor graphics would support HDR-10. I looked at the user guide/manual. It doesn't mention SGX, so I don't know for sure that the motherboard BIOS supports enabling/disabling SGX in the BIOS to allow UHD Blu-ray to be played from an external UHD Blu-ray drive. I was not inexpensive. It cost about $1940 on sale and building + shipping takes 12 weeks.
    Wow inflation is something, it just went up $140, I was hoping it would go down by $800. What do you think of this?

    A) cheap ass $50 android player - bad support from chinese
    manufacturers
    B) good 100$ player ( like OSMC vero 4k+ ) - very good support - linux
    os
    C) good 200$ nvidia shield 4k 2019 - shit support but fastest -
    android
    D) build a 250$ HTPC even with a cheap CPU with APU like the AMD
    200GE
    >windows 10
    E) buy a nvidia 1030 for 150$ add it to your current PC

    I need 2 laptops or another laptop/desktop. I don't know why anyone needs HTPC. I had to Google to understand what it was. i guess it's just cheaper and smaller? I could use that. If you built it, i could pay you on Ebay or such. i dont feel like racking my brain. This is another person' suggestion.
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    Originally Posted by forsure View Post

    Wow inflation is something, it just went up $140, I was hoping it would go down by $800. What do you think of this?

    A) cheap ass $50 android player - bad support from chinese
    manufacturers
    B) good 100$ player ( like OSMC vero 4k+ ) - very good support - linux
    os
    C) good 200$ nvidia shield 4k 2019 - shit support but fastest -
    android
    D) build a 250$ HTPC even with a cheap CPU with APU like the AMD
    200GE
    >windows 10
    E) buy a nvidia 1030 for 150$ add it to your current PC

    I need 2 laptops or another laptop/desktop. I don't know why anyone needs HTPC. I had to Google to understand what it was. i guess it's just cheaper and smaller? I could use that. If you built it, i could pay you on Ebay or such. i dont feel like racking my brain. This is another person' suggestion.

    I will look at the media players you mentioned. According to the specs, a NVIDIA GT 1030 can decode VP9 and HEVC and should support HDR10.

    HTPCs can be smaller but they aren't necessarily cheaper. I plan on re-using cables, a case, a PSU, storage drives, and a UHD Blu-ray drive that I already have when I update my HTPC so it can play UHD Blu-ray but it will probably cost $700+ to upgrade even so. There are very strict technical requirements to be met if the goal is UHD Blu-ray playback from the original discs.

    I'm sorry but I don't feel comfortable building a desktop for someone else.

    P..S. I always reject friend requests because I dislike social media and its conventions.
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  5. Originally Posted by usually_quiet View Post
    Originally Posted by forsure View Post

    Wow inflation is something, it just went up $140, I was hoping it would go down by $800. What do you think of this?

    A) cheap ass $50 android player - bad support from chinese
    manufacturers
    B) good 100$ player ( like OSMC vero 4k+ ) - very good support - linux
    os
    C) good 200$ nvidia shield 4k 2019 - shit support but fastest -
    android
    D) build a 250$ HTPC even with a cheap CPU with APU like the AMD
    200GE
    >windows 10
    E) buy a nvidia 1030 for 150$ add it to your current PC

    I need 2 laptops or another laptop/desktop. I don't know why anyone needs HTPC. I had to Google to understand what it was. i guess it's just cheaper and smaller? I could use that. If you built it, i could pay you on Ebay or such. i dont feel like racking my brain. This is another person' suggestion.

    I will look at the media players you mentioned. According to the specs, a NVIDIA GT 1030 can decode VP9 and HEVC and should support HDR10.

    HTPCs can be smaller but they aren't necessarily cheaper. I plan on re-using cables, a case, a PSU, storage drives, and a UHD Blu-ray drive that I already have when I update my HTPC so it can play UHD Blu-ray but it will probably cost $700+ to upgrade even so. There are very strict technical requirements to be met if the goal is UHD Blu-ray playback from the original discs.

    I'm sorry but I don't feel comfortable building a desktop for someone else.

    P..S. I always reject friend requests because I dislike social media and its conventions.
    I still don't get why you need the Htpc? Why can't you just use a UHD brplayer straight to your tv or AVR? It seems only necessary to store files, not original disks.

    I don't understand the difference in C vs E in the specs I listed. Is that a choice or do I need both? I don't have the patience or know how to build anything.

    According to local builder " high end video cards are not available for purchase right now. This isn't exactly social media. More of a way to learn and teach. You do realize that THEY had the technology for a cell phone when the first tower went up. Marketing is bologna. Now with True Black I see less and not to mention the a/r of most blue rays with black walls.I realize it has to do with Directors intent, but still I think one standard in best format is good enough. Black is not even a color. ArtificiAlly maybe.
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    Originally Posted by forsure View Post
    I still don't get why you need the Htpc? Why can't you just use a UHD brplayer straight to your tv or AVR? It seems only necessary to store files, not original disks.
    Oh, I have lots of files too. The HTPC is primarily my PVR for cable TV and someday maybe for over-the-air broadcast TV again. I already have a UHD Blu-ray player but it is currently used with a different TV. I bought it a month ago when the old Blu-ray player died.

    Originally Posted by forsure View Post
    I don't understand the difference in C vs E in the specs I listed. Is that a choice or do I need both?
    "differences in C vs E" in the specs relating to what features specifically?

    I have the Chrome with Google TV too. I use it in conjunction with an Android app for my PVR program on the HTPC to wirelessly stream live cable TV and recordings stored on the HTPC to my bedroom TV. I have not tried it for 4K yet so I don't know how it performs.
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  7. If you're considering a standalone media player look at the latest (introduced about 6 months ago) Chromecast with Google TV. It's the best value (US$50) at this time if you can access all your media via WiFi. About the only thing it doesn't have is AV1 decoding.
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  8. Originally Posted by jagabo View Post
    If you're considering a standalone media player look at the latest (introduced about 6 months ago) Chromecast with Google TV. It's the best value (US$50) at this time if you can access all your media via WiFi. About the only thing it doesn't have is AV1 decoding.
    I see it lists AV1 decoding in PotPlayer. Am I going to miss anything without this? So this "adapter" will stream my files via wifi from my one pc? No factors of video cards needed to play high end video better?
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  9. Originally Posted by forsure View Post
    Originally Posted by jagabo View Post
    If you're considering a standalone media player look at the latest (introduced about 6 months ago) Chromecast with Google TV. It's the best value (US$50) at this time if you can access all your media via WiFi. About the only thing it doesn't have is AV1 decoding.
    I see it lists AV1 decoding in PotPlayer. Am I going to miss anything without this?
    If you have to ask, then no, at least not for a while. But no other standalone player supports AV1 decoding now either, just PCs. AV1 is a royalty free, next generation (after HEVC/h.265, VP9) codec supported by Google, Intel, Microsoft, NetFlix, Amazon, etc that was finalized about a year ago. There's not much AV1 content yet but there probably will be in the future.

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    So this "adapter" will stream my files via wifi from my one pc?
    Yes. I use Kodi (installable from the Google Play Store) to access videos on a NAS share (a cheap Windows computer in a closet).

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    No factors of video cards needed to play high end video better?
    It's self contained. It's biggest shortcoming is it doesn't have a USB port for an external drive (the single USB port is used to power the device). If you want to attach a USB device you have to get an external USB hub with Power Delivery and a beefier power supply. The remote is a bit skimpy. See the many review/tip videos at youtube.
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  10. The Nvidia Shield is a standalone Android TV media player.
    https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/shield/
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  11. Originally Posted by jagabo View Post
    The Nvidia Shield is a standalone Android TV media player.
    https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/shield/

    Ok here is my ideal situation. My pc with movie files is connected to 1080p tv upstairs. I use PotPlayer. It does not work 100% but it's "ok" for HDR and HEVC on either tv. If I were to buy this Chromecast, I could stream my files on network to downstairs 4k tv? My video card would not be a factor anymore for the streamed files downstairs? Would the HDR passthrough work now with Chromecast? Would the files upstairs still be able to play through AVR on downstairs tv with Chromecast.? Would I still need PotPlayer? With Chromecast what am I seeing on the screen ? i.e my pc, or only shared files? Am I using an included remote to access the tv screen or wireless keyboard? The only reference to Android that I know is for phones. I don't want to use a phone.
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    Originally Posted by forsure View Post
    Ok here is my ideal situation. My pc with movie files is connected to 1080p tv upstairs. I use PotPlayer. It does not work 100% but it's "ok" for HDR and HEVC on either tv. If I were to buy this Chromecast, I could stream my files on network to downstairs 4k tv? My video card would not be a factor anymore for the streamed files downstairs? Would the HDR passthrough work now with Chromecast? Would the files upstairs still be able to play through AVR on downstairs tv with Chromecast.? Would I still need PotPlayer? With Chromecast what am I seeing on the screen ? i.e my pc, or only shared files? Am I using an included remote to access the tv screen or wireless keyboard? The only reference to Android that I know is for phones. I don't want to use a phone.
    The video card installed in the PC with the movie files would not matter. The Chromecast with Google TV can play streamed files using one of the compatible Android apps from the Google Play Store. However, as is the case with any stand-alone media player, the Chromecast with Google TV can't play everything. As an example, my live and recorded TV shows need to be transcoded by the HTPC for streaming because the Chromecast doesn't play the 5.1 AC3 audio otherwise.

    In addition, your home network needs to be up to the task of streaming the file wirelessly because the Chromecast with Google TV doesn't have an Ethernet port. An Ethernet port can be added via a Power + Ethernet USB C adapter sold by Google or a powered USB C hub with an Ethernet port. This USB C hub was recommended in one article about the Chromecast with GoogleTV that I read. I have also read other articles that recommended other docks.

    [Edit] I forgot that USB C hubs can require more power than the Chromecast With Google TV's power adapter provides so people who buy a USB C hub may also need to buy a new USB C power adapter to plug into the wall to power all the devices attached to the USB C hub (including their Chromecast).
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    Originally Posted by forsure View Post
    Originally Posted by jagabo View Post
    Ok here is my ideal situation. My pc with movie files is connected to 1080p tv upstairs. I use PotPlayer. It does not work 100% but it's "ok" for HDR and HEVC on either tv. If I were to buy this Chromecast, I could stream my files on network to downstairs 4k tv? My video card would not be a factor anymore for the streamed files downstairs? Would the HDR passthrough work now with Chromecast? Would the files upstairs still be able to play through AVR on downstairs tv with Chromecast.? Would I still need PotPlayer? With Chromecast what am I seeing on the screen ? i.e my pc, or only shared files? Am I using an included remote to access the tv screen or wireless keyboard? The only reference to Android that I know is for phones. I don't want to use a phone.
    The video card installed in the PC with the movie files would not matter. The Chromecast with Google TV can play the streamed files using one of the compatible Android apps from the Google Play Store. However, as is the case with any stand-alone media player, the Chromecast with Google TV can't play everything. As an example, my live and recorded TV shows need to be transcoded by the HTPC for streaming because the Chromecast doesn't play the 5.1 AC3 audio otherwise.

    In addition, your home network needs to be up to the task of streaming the file wirelessly because the Chromecast with Google TV doesn't have an Ethernet port. An Ethernet port can be added via a Power + Ethernet USB C adapter sold by Google or a powered USB C hub with an Ethernet port. This USB C hub was recommended in one article about the Chromecast with GoogleTV that I read. I have also read other articles that recommended other docks.
    My home network is decent at 28 mib/s. What do I need? My network is in the upstairs with the 1080p tv. It has to be in this bedroom due to what Xfininty says. So does that makes this a no go if I want the streaming on the downstairs 4k tv with the AVR? I can not run wires downstairs. I would say most of my files that I would be using this for are DTS-MA, DTHD+ Atmos, and DTS:X, all 2160p HDR (some).
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    Originally Posted by forsure View Post
    My home network is decent at 28 mib/s. What do I need? My network is in the upstairs with the 1080p tv. It has to be in this bedroom due to what Xfininty says. So does that makes this a no go if I want the streaming on the downstairs 4k tv with the AVR? I can not run wires downstairs. I would say most of my files that I would be using this for are DTS-MA, DTHD+ Atmos, and DTS:X, all 2160p HDR (some).
    I don't have a wired network either and I haven't tried streaming 4K yet so I don't really know if my own wireless network is good enough. I need to get a 4K TV first.
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  15. Originally Posted by forsure View Post
    My home network is decent at 28 mib/s. What do I need? My network is in the upstairs with the 1080p tv. It has to be in this bedroom due to what Xfininty says. So does that makes this a no go if I want the streaming on the downstairs 4k tv with the AVR? I can not run wires downstairs. I would say most of my files that I would be using this for are DTS-MA, DTHD+ Atmos, and DTS:X, all 2160p HDR (some).
    28 Megabit/sec is a bit low for some 4K videos. I only have a few 4K HDR videos and the device is connected to a 32" 1080p SDR TV. The HDR videos with bitrates in the low 20's Mb/s (24p, 30p, and 60p) play properly with appropriate tone mapping. One 50p video at 70 Mb/s is unwatchable with all the buffering.
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  16. Originally Posted by usually_quiet View Post
    my live and recorded TV shows need to be transcoded by the HTPC for streaming because the Chromecast doesn't play the 5.1 AC3 audio otherwise.
    Why is that? It's certainly capable of playing 5.1 AC3 via HDMI. Does your setup require S/PDIF?
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    Originally Posted by usually_quiet View Post
    my live and recorded TV shows need to be transcoded by the HTPC for streaming because the Chromecast doesn't play the 5.1 AC3 audio otherwise.
    Why is that? It's certainly capable of playing 5.1 AC3 via HDMI. Does your setup require S/PDIF?
    S/PDIF isn't required by my recording setup. I'm using a Silicondust CableCARD tuner. The files are in the native ts format. The files recorded from cable-only channels with AVC/H.264 and ac3 lack audio when streamed directly to the Chromecast With Google TV. I haven't figured out what is wrong. The files recorded from the cable version of local broadcasters with MPEG-2 and AC3 play correctly.
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    The first is with attribution and a link back to the original post. The second is for plain quotes. In the post they will appear as:


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  19. I think you should just stop worrying about every possible problem. .
    It's my nature.
    That last icon under Quick Reply

    (quote=forsure;2619134) blah, blah, blah (/quote)
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    where do I find a quick link to the attributes or link?

    Ok I see, more links when pressing quote
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  20. Originally Posted by forsure View Post
    I think you should just stop worrying about every possible problem. .
    It's my nature.
    That last icon under Quick Reply

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    where do I find a quick link to the attributes or link?
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  21. Originally Posted by forsure View Post
    I think you should just stop worrying about every possible problem. .
    It's my nature.
    That last icon under Quick Reply

    (quote=forsure;2619134) blah, blah, blah (/quote)
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    where do I find a quick link to the attributes or link?

    Ok I see, more links when pressing quote
    Yes, when you use the Quote button to reply to a post it includes the quote attributes. If you want to quote another post it's easiest to use another browser tab or window -- press the quote button for that other post and copy/paste the attributes back to your first tab/window.
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  22. When I used Windows SMB error 2 no connection. i looked on Youtube could not find any explanation the way you said to access my shared files. So how do I see them through Kodi. You made it seem real easy. I don't know where to go with the 5 or so options it says of where to browse for files in Kodi,none of them give my files. I dont have a server, just my pc external hd, and wifi, which is at 58 mbs now.
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  23. No. You set up a network share on the PC (right click on a folder, select Properties, go to Sharing tab, etc.). That makes that folder (and all its sub-folders) available via WiFi. Any device capable of accessing Windows shares will be able access files in that folder. Then browse to that network share on the Chromecast, select a video, and play it.
    So this is where I am lost. Am I looking for my files via Chromecast or with Kodi? If I am using Kodi, it asks to add library and then a directory. It says error to Windows Netowrk SMB. I don't know if I am supposed to type a path. it does not see my computer or files.
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  24. Kodi has to be configured to use SMB shares. I don't remember exactly what I had to do but it was somewhere in the Kodi configuration. Start Kodi and use the gear icon near the top left to get to its settings. Navigate to Services -> SMB Client. Make sure the Workgroup is set the the same Workgroup as your Windows PC. You may need to change The Protocol version settings to match what your computer supports. I believe Win10 defaults to SMB3. I believe you can set the minimum to SMBv1 and the maximum to SMBv3 you will be able to access all SMB versions. I think that's all you need to access network shares from Kodi.

    Back at Kodi's main interface select Videos -> Files. You should see your Windows PC and be able to browser through its shares.

    Note that you must share a folder or drive on the PC otherwise there will be nothing for Kodi to see.
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    Kodi has to be configured to use SMB shares. I don't remember exactly what I had to do but it was somewhere in the Kodi configuration. Start Kodi and use the gear icon near the top left to get to its settings. Navigate to Services -> SMB Client. Make sure the Workgroup is set the the same Workgroup as your Windows PC. You may need to change The Protocol version settings to match what your computer supports. I believe Win10 defaults to SMB3. I believe you can set the minimum to SMBv1 and the maximum to SMBv3 you will be able to access all SMB versions. I think that's all you need to access network shares from Kodi.

    Back at Kodi's main interface select Videos -> Files. You should see your Windows PC and be able to browser through its shares.

    Note that you must share a folder or drive on the PC otherwise there will be nothing for Kodi to see.
    I shared the folders my Workgroup just says "workgroup" twice

    Ok I will go try that, but are you sure I dont have to type a network path in add network, and then add my username /password for windows, which I DONT KNOw, windows auto bypasses my password sign in screen for some reason, I guess I set it up that way
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  26. Originally Posted by jagabo View Post
    Kodi has to be configured to use SMB shares. I don't remember exactly what I had to do but it was somewhere in the Kodi configuration. Start Kodi and use the gear icon near the top left to get to its settings. Navigate to Services -> SMB Client. Make sure the Workgroup is set the the same Workgroup as your Windows PC. You may need to change The Protocol version settings to match what your computer supports. I believe Win10 defaults to SMB3. I believe you can set the minimum to SMBv1 and the maximum to SMBv3 you will be able to access all SMB versions. I think that's all you need to access network shares from Kodi.

    Back at Kodi's main interface select Videos -> Files. You should see your Windows PC and be able to browser through its shares.

    Note that you must share a folder or drive on the PC otherwise there will be nothing for Kodi to see.
    There is nothing in services about SMB Client. My pc says Workgroup = Workgroup

    VLC see my Desktop but requires authentication "usually a Domain/user name. Can you tell me how to set this up? I don't have a login password for my desktop.
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  27. You can also install a simple media player like VLC. Then browse through the network shares and play the video you want.
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  28. Originally Posted by jagabo View Post
    You can also install a simple media player like VLC. Then browse through the network shares and play the video you want.
    Not that easy either. VLC requires authentication. I don't know if I have a password or not for Windows, so I can't change it bc it does not ask me either on sign on
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  29. I believe Windows requires an account with a password to share folders.
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  30. Originally Posted by jagabo View Post
    I believe Windows requires an account with a password to share folders.

    Ok I figured out my password. Now VLC does not see the desktop. Did I need to change something in Workgroup? It does not say anything regarding SMB just "workgroup" or am I going to the right place?
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