DVDx 1.8 with LSX Premiere Plugin?

[the_macman]

Hi,

I'm wondering if anyone has managed to use the LSX MPEG Premiere plugin as an external encoder for DVDx? I can't seem to be able to make it work. Everytime encoding starts, program terminates.

Using DVDx 1.8, LSX-MPEG for Adobe Premiere 1.2 on a w2k machine.

Many thanks in advance!

[Sefy]

I've managed to do so on a 98SE machine, but why for crying out loud would you want to use LSX as encoding ? if there is anything with worst quality then DVDx, then it has got to be LSX encoder.

Use CCE/TMPGEnc and even Panasonic!, but never LSX, it's crap!

[the_macman]

Thanks Sefy,

I managed to make it work on w2k. Trick is to use RGB32, RGB24 YUY both fail.

I wonder why you say LSX is crap quality when all online reviews/tests (including vcdhelp) say otherwise. I've had a number of dv streams converted to VCD-compliant streams, and quality is quite acceptable. Oh, and did I mention it's faster than TMPGenc.

Pls elaborate!

[Sefy]

I've tried just about any encoder out there, Xing, Panasonic, TMPGEnc, CCE, LSX and even less known ones (HonesTech MPEG Encoder and others), and believe me when I say that when it comes to quality, LSX is the worst!

It has major big blocks, it's default settings are incorrect (it has 192k audio for VCD as default!), but don't take my word for it, try yourself, encode the same clip in all the encoders you can get your hands on, and you'll see how bad its' quality.

I don't take my word from someone elses tests, not even those done on VCDhelp, when it comes to quality, I do my own tests. and I recommend you do the same.

[the_macman]

Sefy,

Do you refer to MPEG-1 or MPEG-2 encoding when you say LSX is crap quality. I've done some pretty extensive tests for SVCD, including LSX (very slow VBR), TMPGenc 2-pass VBR, and my external hardware FusionMPEG (VBR 2Mb, 30% variance). I then not only compared the results on a Pioneer DV-444 standalone DVD player, but also looked at the stream with Bitstream Viewer.

Test was a 1 min very dynamic video clip from TMF. Results:

1) FusionMPEG produced best results, great color, almost invisible blocks (while 1/16 speed scanning). Encoding time: 1 min

2) LSX came second (more blocks). Encoding time: 8 min

3) TMPGenc has most visible and large blocks. Encoding time: 45min!

Looking at the stream:

1) FusionMPEG has most dynamic range, average 2.4, max 2.7
2) LSX had a somewhat flat rate, average 2.5, max 2.6Mb
3) TMPGenc produced almost a CBR stream

Grateful for your comments.

[Sefy]

I've never heard of FusionMPEG, can you send me a link for it's webpage ?

Regarding LSX, i've tested both the VCD and SVCD encoding, and in my view it's quality and blocks were the worst i've ever seen in my life. even compared to how much people complain about blocky VCD's, it was worse.

[the_macman]

FusionMPEG is produced by DViCo: http://www.dvico.com

[Sefy]

Thank you for the link the_macman!
I'll give that encoder a try and maybe even incorporated it into the guide