I recently started capturing old family home videos on Video 8 with the quite common setup of an AV2HDMI upscaler, an Elgato HD Capture Card and a Sony Camcorder.
After capturing the first minutes of tape, I started to notice a lot of artefacts, broken frames, wrong blanking interval and connection loss between the Camcorder and the upscaler.
It pretty much happened on all tapes with the exception of a few short clips.
Because I got a bit insane on eBay, I had the possibility to try a few different Camcorders and found out, that the tapes are playing fine in the viewfinder.
I also used other RCA-cables with no difference.
At last I tested the upscaler with an old game console, finding out that it works just fine.
Can it be a problem with the composite video out on Sony Camcorders and the tracking of the upscaler? He sees correctly, that it's PAL Video.
Maybe someone of you had a similar problem and has a solution.
Tl;dr: All the components work just fine on their own, but not together.
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The upscaler is losing sync with the poor time base of the V8 tapes/player. One possible solution is to pass the composite signal through an old DVD recorder with a line TBC.
When you are capturing HDMI you capturing whatever the HDMI adapter think the picture look like with all garbled scan lines and timing errors with nasty de-interlacing artifacts, When you are capturing with a USB/PCI capture device you are capturing the actual scan lines recorded on tape and you take control of timing those lines and producing a stable image.
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Thank you very much for the help.
I had a quick search through my video junk and havenít found a dvd recorder or any kind of device with an S-video input.
Before I start my next search on eBay, what am I exactly looking for?
Do I need a dvd recorder, because it has s-video in, TBC and hdmi out or are there also other reasons?
And can you recommend any cheapish devices I should search for?
Iím not looking for highest quality, I just want to digitize old tapes and edit a few scenes together.
How about a capture device with S-Video input, There are a lot of threads asking about what capture device to get just look through them, If it's too much for you just get a DVD recorder and record your tapes onto DVD-R's.
Cheaper is what got you here in the first place, why are you still looking for cheap chinese junk?
It took me a while to find a DVR on eBay, but I finally found a Panasonic ES10. And the first results are still pretty bad. The best results I got, were with S-Video in and SCART out.
But still the TBC didn't do a good job. Compared to the old capturing technique, I don't see a big difference, except in color. (video examples)
The video is very shaky and it seems to be no problem on the tape side, because the data burn-in is all over the place as well. Except when the video is stopped.
Is there a hidden setting in the ES10 I haven't seen jet?
In my experience, if a TV can display the picture normally the ES10/15 can also clean the signal well enough for decent video capture. I haven't tested it myself but I believe only some of the inputs on the ES10/15 apply the line TBC. I always used the rear inputs on my ES15, never the front panel inputs.
It looks like there is a tape alignment problem, either on the playback camcorder, or on the camcorder when the tape was being recorded.
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