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    Anyone tried this super resolution plugin for Vdub, They also have a full fledged GUI program that includes over 200 vdub plugins.

    I will be doing some tests and I will report back.
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    Well I've been experimenting with this plugin and for some reason it always produced a jumpy/jittery picture, I though my de-interlaced SD video capture was done wrong, but no, the de-interlaced sample that I've been using is playing very smoothly at 59.94 fps, Fist I though the plugin is downconverting to 29.97 fps but no, it's keeping the fps intact, So I guess I'll stick to the stock vdub resize filters.
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    So I guess I'll stick to the stock vdub resize filters.
    Try nnedi3_rpow2() for upscaling.
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    Where do I get that filter?
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    Originally Posted by dellsam34 View Post
    Where do I get that filter?
    https://github.com/jpsdr/NNEDI3/releases
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    I prefer vdub so I can watch the frame, For youtube I usually do a crop followed by a rsize in one single operation, Vdub allows me to see what I'm cropping. Wonder which option is the best:

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    I prefer vdub so I can watch the frame
    I use Gordian Knot to figure my crop values. I open the AVS in it, do the cropping to the video and add the values it gives to the AVS for further work. GKnot allows you to see what you're doing.

    Also, you can figure out the crop values in VDub and then add them to the AVS. And, as jagabo implies, nnedi3_rpow2() is better than any VDub resizer for upscaling.
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    That seems too much work if doing several videos, I'll try to figure out why Super Res is giving a jettery results and go from there.
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  9. Originally Posted by dellsam34 View Post
    That seems too much work if doing several videos...
    It takes no more time than what you're doing already. Plus, encoding using VDub filtering will be slower than encoding through an AVS. Not to mention degrading colorspace conversions for many VDub filters.
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    When I crop the resulting resolution is very odd and I don't think any stand alone resizer will work with it, Vdub can take that resolution and resize from it as long as the process is done in one step. hope this clears my requirement. I think we are drifting from the subject of the thread, I will soon post samples hoping that someone can figure out why the video is not smooth.
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    Ok here is some samples before cropping/resizing (720x486) 35MB and after (1440x1080) 127MB:
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  12. You have a playback problem. Both those samples play smoothly here. Does the attached video play any smoother?
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    No, not really, I have tried two computers one Win10 and one Win7 both can playback HD pretty smoothly and both failed to playback smoothly the samples using both VLC and MPC-HC.
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  14. There is no difference in smoothness between the two videos you posted. You can step through them frame by frame to verify there are no added or dropped frames, and no artifacts that would result in jerky motion.

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    sres = LWLibavVideoSource("CartoonHuffDintCropSresSample.avi").Subtitle("SRes")
    LWLibavVideoSource("CartoonHuffDintSample.avi") 
    Crop(4,2,-14,-9)
    Spline36Resize(v2.width, v2.height)
    Subtitle("source")
    Interleave(sres, last)
    You realize this is a cartoon right? Most of the animation was created at 12 fps, some at 24 fps. The source clip has been deinterlaced improperly. Do you have the version before you deinterlaced it?
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    It has nothing to do with cartoon and de-interlacing, my point is they don't play equally, I know what I'm seeing. Lets see if I can grab a video with my phone of both files just to give you an idea of what I'm seeing on my end.
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    Ok here is a video grab of both playing in repeat mode, the size of the window don’t matter I already tried playing both files at the same window size but the same effect.
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  17. That's definitely a playback problem.
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    I think I narrowed it down to the HuffYUV compressor, When I saved a copy in lossless AVI it played smooth just like the original at least in VLC, MPC-HC still stuttered a little bit, At this point I think it's my playback hardware. Will a memory increase help? I have 5GB now.
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  19. Why is your screen cap in post #16 fulll of blended frames?

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    Blending like that can be seen in both the SD and HD portions of that MOV file. Neither AVI video has any blending like that. Are you using some frame rate conversion in the player? Heavy temporal noise filters?
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    That's my phone capturing the computer screen, I wouldn't judge from that.
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    Originally Posted by dellsam34 View Post
    I prefer vdub so I can watch the frame,
    AvsPmod for preview when writing.
    Process the avs in VirtualDub2 (with preview enabled, but it'll be choppy and slow encoding).

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    Ancient defunct junk.

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    There is no difference in smoothness between the two videos
    I can confirm that.

    Originally Posted by dellsam34 View Post
    I think I narrowed it down to the HuffYUV compressor, When I saved a copy in lossless AVI it played smooth just like the original at least in VLC, MPC-HC still stuttered a little bit, At this point I think it's my playback hardware. Will a memory increase help? I have 5GB now.
    Also know that the FFHuffyuv codec has issues. Bad reverse engineering of the official Huffyuv.
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    It is junk indeed, I'll stick to Lanczos3 in vdub, it is stable and good enough for youtube.
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