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    I checked a few AMD B550 motherboards that just appeared in the market and I am surprised that currently they only support 3rd Gen AMD Ryzen Processors and no Processors with Radeon Graphics. Does this mean that I have to wait until the ‘Zen 3’ Processors are announced?
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  2. 3000 APUs are based on older Zen+, CPUs are based on Zen2:
    Die APUs der 3000-Klasse sind im Gegensatz zu den CPUs in 12nm gefertigt (Zen+; „Picasso“) und bringen dadurch nur evolutionäre Verbesserung. Die Markteinführung der 65W-Modelle erfolgte gleichzeitig mit den 7nm-CPUs ab dem 7. Juli 2019. Am 30. September wurden die Pro-Modelle der 3000-Klasse angekündigt. Der am 15. November 2019 angekündigte Athlon 3000G gehört hingegen sogar nur zu Zen („Raven Ridge“, manchmal in Zusammenhang mit dieser APU „Raven2“ genannt).

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    I am asking if I have to wait until the ‘Zen 3’ Processors are announced for a supported Processor with Radeon Graphics on a B550 motherboard. I don't understand what the above reply is supposed to mean.
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  4. You need Zen2 APU, which will be called 4000.

    APUs are one generation behind cpus.

    I would recommend 3300x which is sufficient for most users and the price is very good. And add a small dedicated GPU.
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    The 3300X has not yet appeared in the shop I usually buy from. I already have a dedicated GPU, but I think I prefer to buy a Processor with Radeon Graphics anyway. Is waiting for 4000 the only option?
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  6. Yes you will have to wait for 4000 APUs or buy a 3000 CPU, a 3600 (non X) is also a very good choice, a bit more expensive but more in stock at least here in Germany. If you want a higher end CPU just go above, but these little two are best bang for the buck.
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    The 3300X has not yet appeared in the shop I usually buy from. I already have a dedicated GPU, but I think I prefer to buy a Processor with Radeon Graphics anyway. Is waiting for 4000 the only option?
    Zen2 4000G "Renoir" Apus will likely come out well before zen3 desktop.
    Rumors were they were coming out in July ? It is not clear how they will be priced.
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    Originally Posted by butterw View Post
    Zen2 4000G "Renoir" Apus will likely come out well before zen3 desktop.
    Rumors were they were coming out in July ? It is not clear how they will be priced.
    When are these finally coming out?
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  9. Renoir desktop zen2 APU (ex: 4700G) did release on 21st July but only to OEM.
    https://www.anandtech.com/show/15921/amd-launches-12-desktop-renoir-ryzen-4000g-series...-cant-buy-them

    I would expect we will learn more about amd desktop APU at the AMD ZEN3 announcement event on October 8th.
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    The 3300X never appeared in the shop I usually buy from. Is it much better than the 3100 which is available?
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    I think 3300X is worth the extra cost, but I can't find it online either.
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    For the price the 3300x is selling at other sites it would be better to get the 3100 since it's just a minor downgrade.
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